[Conscript] avoiding military service

[Visitor]

this is a question related to Taiwan's military service policy for any who knows anything about how this works.

I was born in taiwan and have a cdn passport and a tw passport. i entered tw with my tw passport. I have yet to reclaim my tw citizenship. as an overseas chinese, I believe the rule is that you have to leave the island every four months. does this apply if you do not reclaim your tw citizenship? if you overstay your four-month window and try to leave taiwan, will you be detained and forced to put in 2 yrs of service? Also, if anybody knows how the military tracks people down to enlist them, please let me know as I am looking to find any way out of this.

I am trying my best to avoid military service at all cost and am looking to know what my options are.

any help would be most appreciated.

[Visitor]

I suggest that you send inquiries about "miliary service" issues to Johnny Huang, Secretary General, Parents Society of Overseas Students, Taiwan.

Email: psos@ms12.hinet.net
Mailing address: P. O. Box 6-135, Beitou District, Taipei 112 TAIWAN

Mr. Huang would prefer to receive your comments in writing.

Please let us know what you find out.

[Visitor]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial Narrow">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial Narrow" size="2">Originally posted by murphy:
I was born in taiwan and have a cdn passport and a tw passport. i entered tw with my tw passport. I have yet to reclaim my tw citizenship. </font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You can have an ROC passport without ROC citizenship?

[Visitor]

What Murphy is actually referring to is that he has an ROC passport but does not have an ROC ID card.

The ROC has something of a dual citizenship system, depending on whether or not the citizen in question has "Household Registration" in the ROC area.

Those with "Household Registration" in the ROC area obtain an ID card, those without such registration do not. Without an ID card, a citizen's rights to live in the ROC are severely restricted. Full details on relevant regulations (most of which violate the ROC Constitution) may be found in the Immigration Law.

Note: Foreigners cannot obtain "Household Registration," although an ARC may be used as proof of "Residency Registration."

[Visitor]

in response to wondering: yes (I think).

at this point, I have a taiwan ID number but no ID card. I am not sure but I think the policy is that if you do not have the card, you are not officially a citizen (correct me if I am wrong).

i applied for my ROC passport in Canada.

[Visitor]

Hey Murph, just cut off your trigger finger. That'll do the trick.

[Visitor]

draftdodger,

thanks for the advice. i cut off my thumb already but apparently it's not enuff to get me exempted. I'll try the trigger finger and see what they say...

[miso]

I have a Taiwanese friend who is starving himself to death, so that he won't have to go to military. I don't really think this is a healthy way to get out of it, but what ever we try, we can't talk him out of it....

What guys do in my country is to use psychological reasons, let's say unable to use a gun, claustrophobia or the like. It usually works.....

[Poagao]

I have a Taiwanese friend who is starving himself to death, so that he won't have to go to military....

What an extraordinarily stupid idea. He's probably causing health problems for the rest of his life so he can make a little more money for two years' time. Just do the service and get on with your life, I say. If you're an ABC/CBC/whatever and you can't stomach the service, then maybe you should reconsider your plans to live here and reap all the benefits of citizenship.

[Big Fluffy Matthew]

I have a Taiwanese friend who is starving himself to death, so that he won't have to go to military. I don't really think this is a healthy way to get out of it, but what ever we try, we can't talk him out of it....

maybe safer than serving in the army. Don't 500 people die every year in the Taiwanese armed forces ? During peacetime...