US citizen/Taiwan born male visiting Taiwan for vacation

[pqkdzrwt]

There has never been any substantiated information other than rumors that US/Taiwan dual citizens entering Taiwan using their US visa have been drafted. I have doubts that the Taiwanese passport system is advanced enough to track dual US/Taiwan citizenship entry. I kid you not, last time my wife entered Taiwan on her Taiwanese passport (renewed in Australia), her passport number was not even in the computer system. The airport guy literally had to call head office to confirm it, and then appeared to manually enter her new passport details into the computer.

That said, surely I am not the only person thinking that a year of "boot camp" might be more beneficial for your life than if you have not done it?

[twjl]

DO NOT confuse what it meant to serve a country.

I definitely agree with you that there's a difference between "serving" your country vs. "contributing." However, I feel that both are equally important and depending on the situation, both are just as vital.

In times of war of course serving is more important. But in times of peace, and especially in times of global economic hardships, contributing is just as valuable to a country.

The Taiwanese government recognizes this, which is why they're moving to a volunteer Army because they know it's more effective. This will allow those people who aren't suited for being in the military to begin contributing, rather than being paid to be in "boot camp" for year

[pqkdzrwt]

The Taiwanese government recognizes this, which is why they're moving to a volunteer Army because they know it's more effective. This will allow those people who aren't suited for being in the military to begin contributing, rather than being paid to be in "boot camp" for year

As per my previous post, I am of the personal opining that those who "arent suited" for being in the military are the people in most need of being sent there

[Curious Biker]

The Taiwanese government recognizes this, which is why they're moving to a volunteer Army because they know it's more effective. This will allow those people who aren't suited for being in the military to begin contributing, rather than being paid to be in "boot camp" for year

As per my previous post, I am of the personal opining that those who "arent suited" for being in the military are the people in most need of being sent there

HOORAH!

[twjl]

As per my previous post, I am of the personal opining that those who "arent suited" for being in the military are the people in most need of being sent there

Haha While I can understand that sentiment for some of those people (e.g the lazy, non-motivated ones), I think in regards to the big picture, the government benefits the most by having the hardworking folks start contributing immediately.

And I think the Taiwan government realizes this, so that's why they're switching to a volunteer Army.

[bismarck]

Conscripts are notoriously bad soldiers, and from personal experience some people just aren't cut out for it and shouldn't be there. People are different, and there are different ways to contribute and/or serve.

[achdizzy1099]

The draft will end sometime between 2014-2018, you could wait til' then to enter. Of course by then the KMT will probably have handed Taiwan over to the CCP, at which point you'll be 'serving' your country in a reeducation center on the mainland somewhere near the Mongolian/Zabaykalsky Krai boundary.

good luck.

T

[Curious Biker]

The draft will end sometime between 2014-2018, you could wait til' then to enter. Of course by then the KMT will probably have handed Taiwan over to the CCP, at which point you'll be 'serving' your country in a reeducation center on the mainland somewhere near the Mongolian/Zabaykalsky Krai boundary.

good luck.

T

You're probably right with the way KMT is leading the country. For that matter, any parties because' Mula speaks louder.

Btw, is it true that kids still need to serve the 2-4 months basic bootcamp even though the conscription will be gone by 2014? That's my understanding from the folks here.

[frank1980]

for some reason a lot of you think immigration to another country is dodging military service.

the fact of the matter is, yes both of my parents were born and raised in Taiwan. My dad severed his conscription at the taiwanese marine elite forces. we wanted a better life and migrated to the united states over 17 years ago when I was 14. since then, no one has gone back to Taiwan to enjoy any of this so called "citizen" benefit. not even sure what the benefits are. we are not dodging anything, or take the easy way out in anyway. we are not trying to enjoy any citizenship benefit yet don't want to serve the country.

we simply still have every family members reside in taiwan, and I would love to be able to see them without complications to come back to my life here in the united states, not even for a long period of time, but 3 weeks the most.

unfortunately according to the laws of Taiwan, one like myself only have 2 options to do so.

1) use your us passport, although the taiwanese government has the perfect system that links your us passport to your roc passport. many had no problem because the time has changed, the custom agents simply just don't care anymore. but your faith is solely rely on the mercy of those agents, if one is having a bad day, you could end up being prohibited from exiting.

2) renew your roc passport, apply for oversea chinese status. then apply for an exit permit with that status once you have entered Taiwan. although the policy stated that this option is the correct way to go. and many people have successfully done so with this procedure. your faith is still uncertain because it lays in other people's hands. they can simply just deny your exit permit.

so basically the decision is mine to make to chose carefully on what I do, because there is NO right or wrong way to do this. but only a way of advisory.

[bismarck]

And your point is?