Elegua wrote:Think of it as the modern day Babylon, Sodom and Gomorra all wrapped into one.
I think perhaps most of you missed the part where I said I lived in a slum for a few months, of course I know the real seedy shit side of Shenzhen, I was sleeping on the floor of a filthy slum apartment and my Chinese friend who I was living with, well his girlfriend was a prostitute who for instance while we were all watching TV together would get a phone call and have to dissapear for a few hours then come back later (also she'd been bought from her rural parents by a pimp.. let's just say shitty shitty stuff.. and she was such a nice girl too)... it was an uncomfortable and shitty experience to live in and see the kind of crap that goes on in the underbelly of the city. But that's my point, that is the underbelly, and if you want to get involved in things like drugs and prostitution you'll start seeing it very quickly, however if you just want to live a normal life, go out partying have a good job, go shopping etc etc, this city is amazing. And yes the air is much cleaner than Taipei, and the city is very green littered with big impressive parks and bird watching mangroves etc etc it's been given some world heritage award or something (skips my memory as I'm not a treehugger) for being a green city.
Another thing that many of you are saying is that you can isolate yourself from the crap and stick to "clean areas" This is true and many foreigners for instance just live in Nanshan, Shekou (about 80 to 90% of all foreigers in fact) but they miss out on all the fun, I love exploring the local small villages and sitting on the side of the road drinking a beer at some grubby little 烤吧 chatting to the locals, my point being that even if you immerse yourself in the dirtier so called "real China" areas, you'll still be treated well by the locals, you'll still be safe and still be able to enjoy yourself. (Watch out for pickpockets in crowded areas, but if you have common sense you would anyway).
So which part did I get wrong again? I find no glamour in the underbelly, nor romance in honor among thieves. But, kudo’s to you for going out and seeing the, “real China”, that is out there and I am glad that you can still see the humanity through all the grit.
Spend some more time in Taiwan and you’ll realize you're a bit off base interms of the environment/pollution. Either that or you've been watching too much CCTV.
Haha, thanks, and yes I could be off on the environment thing, but seriously I found it difficult to breathe in all that traffic and had black grit on my face after a day riding, I'm just talking from first hand experiences.. actually I took a lot of youtube videos while driving around Taipei and Taoyuan etc, you can check them out, you'll see the air quality was pretty shyte in Taipei, and don't even get me started on that Linkou place 林口 (It could just have been a bad week for air quality though). Anyway my comment was on Taipei specifically, I drove out one morning to watch the sunrise over taipei.. and yes the air quality again was a little shyte.
Sunrise over taipei:
Pic of Taipei from the 101:
Okay now I know this isn't fair because I don't have a sunrise picture of Shenzhen, but I'll get up early and take one tomorrow, here's a picture I took during the day from the top of my building:
and one more of the actual city also from my building, please note that I used the same camera to take all four pictures: