Politically corrected names in Chinese?

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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby cranky laowai » 26 Oct 2011, 15:56

Chris wrote:
cranky laowai wrote:Different han: 漢 (Chinese) vs. 韓 (Korean).

The Chinese name 漢城 for Seoul means Han City, but the Han is from the name of the Han River 漢江 (in Korean: Hangang).

I know. Yet this was apparently too close for comfort for some Koreans. (What? Are Koreans ever irrational, touchy nationalists? :whistle: ) At any rate, the Koreans asked for the change ... and they got it.
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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby Zla'od » 27 Oct 2011, 08:35

The han in hanguo represents an indigenous Korean word (not a Chinese loan-word--a character was assigned to fit the sound of an already-existing Korean word) which seems to have meant something like "luminous." It's a spiritual idea, possibly with shamanic overtones.
“If a bodhisattva resides as a householder and there appears a woman who is clearly unbound to anyone, habituated to sexual indulgence, attracted to the bodhisattva and seeking sexual activities, the bodhisattva having seen this thinks, 'Do not make her mind upset, producing much misfortune. If she pursues her desire, she will obtain freedom. As expedient means [upaya] I will take her in and have her plant the roots for virtue, also having her abandon unwholesome karma. I will engage in impure activities [abrahma-carya] with a compassionate mind.' Even practising such defiled activities like this, there is nothing that is violated [precepts], and much merit will be produced." -- from the Yogācārabhūmi Śāstra

For even more saucy Buddhist scripture, see http://sdhammika.blogspot.tw/2010/08/st ... m-all.html
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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby the bear » 27 Oct 2011, 08:56

Note also that 朝鮮 is also widely used in a historical context to mean Korea or the Korean peninsula.
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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby Chris » 27 Oct 2011, 09:39

the bear wrote:Note also that 朝鮮 is also widely used in a historical context to mean Korea or the Korean peninsula.

As well as its narrower meaning: the Joseon Dynasty.
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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby Quentin » 29 Oct 2011, 07:16

What is the politically correct word for black people in Chinese (white people, for that matter)? I know that hei-ren and bai-ren ain't it! A friend of mine told me that he found the Taiwanese term, o-lang (romanization?), for blacks offensive, but I don't know if that was just him getting sick of being referred to as "the black guy" or the term itself was offensive.

Yes, yes, I know - it's waiguoren for all of us, but sometimes they try to get a little more specific.
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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby Quentin » 02 Nov 2011, 11:14

Seriously, I want to know. Are there politically correct name for black or white people in Chinese? I'd figure several of the scholars here could answer me. There are none, they just call them báirén, hēirén, and kāfēisè-rén?
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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby Tempo Gain » 02 Nov 2011, 11:17

A friend of mine told me that he found the Taiwanese term, o-lang (romanization?), for blacks offensive, but I don't know if that was just him getting sick of being referred to as "the black guy" or the term itself was offensive.



I'm sure that's it. "o-lang" means "black person" in the same way "hei-ren" does.
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Re: Politically corrected names in Chinese?

Postby BAH » 05 Mar 2012, 17:28

There are many vegetable names that haven't been corrected but I don't hear anyone protesting

Tomato 番茄 fanqie - barbarian eggplant
Carrot 胡蘿蔔 huluobo - barbarian radish (turnip)
Pepper 胡椒 hujiao - barbarian (chili, bell) pepper
Onion 洋蔥 - yangcong - foreign scallion

etc.

others in this vein have / are being phased out naturally:

House - 洋房 - yangfang - foreign house. Still in use to denote a single family home or villa but used less now
Umbrella - 洋傘 - yangsan - foreign umbrella. Not really used anymore.
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