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Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

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Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

Postby hansioux » 24 Aug 2015, 15:41

In a Time article, titled Foreign News: This Is the Shame, published back in June 10, 1946, the reporter noted the frustration of the average Taiwanese harbor towards ROC/KMT officials in charge of the trusted territories of Taiwan.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/a ... 79,00.html

Excerpts includes:

Formosans greeted the few visiting Americans with: "You were kind to the Japanese, you dropped the atom on them. You dropped the Chinese on us!"


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Formosans use the adjective "Chinese" as a synonym for inefficiency and confusion.


and

Most foreign observers in Formosa agreed that if a referendum were taken today Formosans would vote for U.S. rule. Second choice—Japan.


Full article is seem quoted here: http://www.hi-on.org.tw/bulletins.jsp?b_ID=75772


There was another article by Washington Daily News, titled Chinese exploit Formosa worse than japs did

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Unfortunately full content of that article is hard to find now.
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Re: Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

Postby Hokwongwei » 24 Aug 2015, 15:46

Good finds, thanks. Chiang Kai-shek was truly a grate leeder.
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Re: Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

Postby hansioux » 24 Aug 2015, 18:13

it is also interesting that peopled used to say "Shanghailanders." XD

Just as angry Shanghailanders, who could buy only from the government-backed Formosa Sugar Co., feared that a colossal sugar corner was being rigged in the already disastrous black market.
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Re: Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

Postby Hokwongwei » 25 Aug 2015, 00:38

Is this the opening rumblings of a Shanghailand independence movement??? Someone call in the tanks.

Sometimes in my lonely free time (lots of that) I wonder what China would be like if it had just split up after the fall of the Qing Dynasty. Where would the national boundaries be? What would each country be like? It's a fun thought experiment. After I do more research, I may come up with an alternate history map of the 20th century Remnants of the Qing (China) Empire.
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Re: Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

Postby hansioux » 25 Aug 2015, 09:55

Hokwongwei wrote:Is this the opening rumblings of a Shanghailand independence movement??? Someone call in the tanks.

Sometimes in my lonely free time (lots of that) I wonder what China would be like if it had just split up after the fall of the Qing Dynasty. Where would the national boundaries be? What would each country be like? It's a fun thought experiment. After I do more research, I may come up with an alternate history map of the 20th century Remnants of the Qing (China) Empire.



technically it did. Had the Japanese not intervened during the Northern expedition, it would have remained fractured into:

Northeast (Feng branch 奉系),
Northwest (Shan branch 陝系),
Beijing (Zhi branch 直系),
Anhui (Wan branch 皖系),
Shanxi (Jin branch 晉系),
Guangdong and Jiejiang (Guang branch 廣系),
Guangxi (Qui branch 桂系),
Yunnan (Tian branch 滇系)

And the colonies would automatically regain independence, such as Mongolia, East Turkestan and Tibet. So we are talking about an 11 way split here.
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Re: Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

Postby Zhengzhou2010 » 26 Aug 2015, 02:58

hansioux wrote:it is also interesting that peopled used to say "Shanghailanders." XD

Just as angry Shanghailanders, who could buy only from the government-backed Formosa Sugar Co., feared that a colossal sugar corner was being rigged in the already disastrous black market.


The only time I previously saw the use of "Shanghailanders" was in reference to the expat community in the Concession during the early 20C up to WWII. For some reason I had the sense that it was especially widely used among German émigrés (many of Jewish backgrounds escaping German govt persecution in the 1930s) and Russian exiles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghailander
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Re: Taiwanese's opinion of ROC/KMT prior to 228

Postby Zhengzhou2010 » 26 Aug 2015, 02:59

Hokwongwei wrote:Good finds, thanks. Chiang Kai-shek was truly a grate leeder.


Only rivaled by his son, the Deer Leeder.
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