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Old Pictures of Taipei

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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby Hokwongwei » 11 Jul 2015, 04:46

hannes wrote:I kind of like how green and less developed Taiwan was at that time. Today, housing projects creep up every possible slope, and that does NOT make Taiwan a more beautiful place.


I agree with you, of course. It's kind of a tradeoff though. The Taiwanese countryside isn't this bucolic ideal of purity and cleanliness like we can see in a lot of (well) developed countries, and it wasn't back then either. Listening to my father-in-law's stories of how hard life was at the time leaves me kind of unsure about what I think is ideal for Taiwan. If I could turn back the clock and rearrange things to my liking, I guess I'd put in a bunch more nature preserves, keep the population at about half of what it currently is, and strive to reach an acceptable level of development that ensures access to vital resources for all citizens while not blighting the landscape with the concrete monstrosities we see today.
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby Charlie Phillips » 26 Jul 2015, 16:11

Associated Press just released a bunch of newsreels and uploaded this to youtube a few days ago.

General scenes of life in Taiwan in the early 1970s. Chinese dragon dance. President Chiang Kai-Shek seen on balcony. Various street scenes in Taipei - traffic, motorcycles, aircraft, bridges, municipal buildings, Imperial Hotel, shops, shopping, cinema advertisements on hoardings, ornamental gardens,


OK, it's not a magazine. It's just shit that happens: here. http://news.thewildeast.net
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby hansioux » 07 Sep 2015, 13:17

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Malaria used to be so terrifying here in Taiwan, that Japanese soldiers used to look like a freaking bee keeper when standing guard. Eventually malaria was controlled after the Japanese hired William Kinnimond Burton to design water infrastructures here in Taiwan. Burton contracted malaria while here in Taiwan and died in Japan in 1897.
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby hannes » 08 Sep 2015, 12:35

hansioux wrote: Japanese soldiers used to look like a freaking bee keeper when standing guard.


Ha ha.

Just stumbled across this site: http://www.takaoclub.com/index.htm

Not sure if it has mentioned here. Quite informative with old pictures and stuff.
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby hansioux » 08 Sep 2015, 14:57

I find this article about Ishigaki island and coolie mutiny aboard the The Robert Bowne especially interesting.

http://www.takaoclub.com/bowne/index.htm
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby hsinhai78 » 08 Sep 2015, 19:20

Charlie Phillips wrote:Associated Press just released a bunch of newsreels and uploaded this to youtube a few days ago.

General scenes of life in Taiwan in the early 1970s. Chinese dragon dance. President Chiang Kai-Shek seen on balcony. Various street scenes in Taipei - traffic, motorcycles, aircraft, bridges, municipal buildings, Imperial Hotel, shops, shopping, cinema advertisements on hoardings, ornamental gardens,




Just look at the buildings. Sometime between the 1970s and today Taiwan ran out of wall paint and hence we have the dirty, rotten buildings everyone associates with Taipei's urban landscape.
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby hannes » 13 Oct 2015, 13:06

Just saw this, those are not puppet heads... Somewhere in the mountains during the Japanese occupation period.

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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby hansioux » 13 Oct 2015, 13:47

hannes wrote:Just saw this, those are not puppet heads... Somewhere in the mountains during the Japanese occupation period.

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That's not a Japanese soldier by the way. It's one of those Aiyung, private aboriginal containment militias. The taker of the picture wasn't sure if the person was an ethic Han or Sinitized Pingpu Aboriginal.
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby jesus80 » 13 Oct 2015, 13:50

hansioux wrote:That's not a Japanese soldier by the way. It's one of those Aiyung, private aboriginal containment militias. The taker of the picture wasn't sure of the person was an ethic Han or Sinitized Pingpu Aboriginal.

What is an Aiyung soldier? I couldn't find anything in google..
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Re: Old Pictures of Taipei

Postby hansioux » 13 Oct 2015, 14:14

jesus80 wrote:
hansioux wrote:That's not a Japanese soldier by the way. It's one of those Aiyung, private aboriginal containment militias. The taker of the picture wasn't sure of the person was an ethic Han or Sinitized Pingpu Aboriginal.

What is an Aiyung soldier? I couldn't find anything in google..


Aiyung (隘勇, Barrier Volunteers)

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%9A%98%E5%8B%87

Wikipedia only has the entry in Chinese. After Qing's acquisition of west coast Taiwan, the Qing government drew a line, the thóo-gû-kau (土牛溝, Dirt bull ditch), between the Qing territory and the Aboriginal territory. Its purpose is to prevent ethnic Han from grabbing and developing Aboriginal owned lands, and at the same time try to keep the Aboriginals confined and minimize attacks.

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Red line depicts thóo-gû-kau of that certain period

However, the divide didn't really function all that well. Han merchant groups continue to grab lands from the Aboriginals in order to gain access to valuable resources such as deer skin, farm land and camphor. As they do this, the wronged Aboriginal would head hunt according to their tradition. So Han merchant groups would hire militias to secure their interests, and these militias were referred to as Aiyungs.

A famous merchant group is called Jin-Guang-Fu (金廣福), which is a joint Hakka and Holo effort to develop Saisiyat territory Rakkus, present day Beipu (北埔). It's a popular tourist spot in Beipu today.

There are many location around Taiwan named after the thóo-gû-kau or Aiyung bases. New Taipei's Tucheng district (土城) for example, is so named because it was once the line that divides Han and Aboriginals. There are many places named Ai-liao (隘寮) or Ai-men (隘門) around Taiwan, that were militia posts. The Japanese continued the Ai-yung practise for a while until they replaced all militia with regular Japanese police.

By the way, Beipu's original name, Rakkus, means Camphor trees in Saisiyat. The name Aiyung derived from the first Sinitized name for Beipu, Da-ai Bei-pu (大隘北埔), where Da-ai seems to be the phonetic translation for the Saisiyat legend, Ta'ay, the magical little black people. The militia seems to have gotten the Aiyung name from the location name Da-ai, and became the word for all paid militias defending against Aboriginals through out Taiwan.
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