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"God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby yuli » 26 Oct 2011, 08:32

Leonne wrote:Please help me with something to read about that, cos I'm not familiar to the particular problem you mention.

A good starting point would be here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Cath ... present.29
In this context, one issue that may interest you is the issue of censorship.

Anyway, you are right, the topic is Ms. Ching Hai and her organisation, about which I think I agree with you (make sure you see that article I had linked to earlier: it points out a few extremely shady things)...
 
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby Leonne » 26 Oct 2011, 08:50

yuli wrote:
Leonne wrote:Please help me with something to read about that, cos I'm not familiar to the particular problem you mention.

A good starting point would be here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Cath ... present.29
In this context, one issue that may interest you is the issue of censorship.

Anyway, you are right, the topic is Ms. Ching Hai and her organisation, about which I think I agree with you (make sure you see that article I had linked to earlier: it points out a few extremely shady things)...


Thanks for the link, I'll read that for my personal culture :bow:

yuli wrote:
lilylight wrote:Here is a quite balanced critique that reads quite similar to one I read about a year ago in another context (it is linked from the page mentioned above):
http://supremeleak.pbworks.com/2011-06- ... x+NY+Times


The link you gave earlier is dead because supremeleak website has been closed. But the original article is here http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2011-06- ... -movement/ I have noticed this article few month ago, it confirm many things I could read elsewhere, like in a thread in rickross forum :http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,51521,page=1
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby milkalex » 26 Oct 2011, 08:59

someone gave us flyers with a large pic of her on the Jazz festival in Taichung last weekend. I said "oh no that crazy bitch, she believes that you can live only from air (no need for any food), she is crazy" and my taiwanese gf said "I thought she is Buddhist". So I guess many Taiwanese believe that this is a Buddhism religion. I explained to her that she is the only god in her sect, and that she build a million dollar house in a national park without permission. She is also super rich, very good scammer. They have that channel running 24 hours in the Keelung (Jilong) bus station next to a "suprememaster" breakfast shop.

But at least they don't run around and tell you crazy stuff about evil and jesus and whatever like this bicycle Mormons.

Btw:once someone asked her why she would always wear jewelery and expensive cloth, she should use the money for charity or something. She answered that "god" doesn't care about appearance so therefor it doesn't matter what you wear. :cool:
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby lilylight » 29 Oct 2011, 02:51

Leonne wrote:
yuli wrote:
lilylight wrote:Here is a quite balanced critique that reads quite similar to one I read about a year ago in another context (it is linked from the page mentioned above):
http://supremeleak.pbworks.com/2011-06- ... x+NY+Times


The link you gave earlier is dead because supremeleak website has been closed. But the original article is here http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2011-06- ... -movement/ I have noticed this article few month ago, it confirm many things I could read elsewhere, like in a thread in rickross forum :http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,51521,page=1


Update the links

for Supremeleak: http://supremeleak.over-blog.com/ (all info about Ching Hai in multiple languages)

for Ching Hai secret wedding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXCrCfCS ... ideo_title

Also an excellent discussion thread about Ching Hai : http://forum.rickross.com/read.php?12,51521,page=1
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby lilylight » 03 Aug 2014, 21:04

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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby SingingRain » 11 Aug 2014, 19:52

Aren't most of these people basically fakers and charlatans, or am I just horribly sheltered?
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby cultleak » 26 Aug 2014, 07:21

Quan Yin Method - The light part

The Quan Yin method of the Supreme Master Ching Hai Association consists of two parts, light and sound. Initiates are told to do each part in proportion of 1.5 hours of light and 1 hour of sound.

At the Quan Yin initiation of the group this is what they teach of the light part of the method:
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Light part of method
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There are 5 initial regions (dimensions) of the Universe, the physical, the emotional, the mental, a void and then God (that's what they think the 5th level ruler is), and each region has it's own God as they call them and to get passed that region to reach the 5th level for this meditation you have to recite the name of that region's ruler.

The five names that the group calls the five holy names are:

Jot-Nir-ran-yan (Physical region) - j is pronounced like y
Onkar (Emotional region) - the k is between g and k
Rarankar (Mental region)
Sohang (Void) - don't over pronounce the g
Satnam (God)

Concentrate on the third eye which is around the centre of the forehead and look in front of you (inside) through your third eye and recite the 5 holy names waiting a slight moment before saying the next name. Say each names stretched almost like you're singing it.
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby Zla'od » 26 Aug 2014, 10:29

She got all that from Sant Mat. These five mantras, and the accompanying theology, are from Surat-Shabd Yoga ("the Yoga of Light and Sound").
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby shiadoa » 26 Aug 2014, 10:40

SingingRain wrote:Aren't most of these people basically fakers and charlatans, or am I just horribly sheltered?

No , you are quite right in most cases. Sadly it seems that exposing this idiocy, or even being allowed to joke about it is difficult on Forumosa. A Moderator has decided, in their infinite wisdom, to remove a joke reply I posted , probably based on some bullshit "must not make fun of religion" premace. You would have to remove half of the Christian postings on here but instead choose obscure, obviously dubious, sects to defend. :ohreally:
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Re: "God's Direct Contact," the "Supreme Master" Ching Hai

Postby cultleak » 11 Sep 2014, 06:02

The other part of their 'secret' meditation.

The Quan Yin method of the Supreme Master Ching Hai Association consists of two parts, light and sound. Initiates are told to do each part in proportion of 1.5 hours of light and 1 hour of sound.

At the Quan Yin initiation of the group this is what they teach of the sound part of the method:

Sound part of method
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Go into a completely squatting position with your elbows resting on your legs, or sitting on with a table with the elbows on the table, then block the ears with the thumbs inserted in them and the palms on head, do not put any fingers on the third eye (that is around the center of the forehead). Concentrate on the third eye and you should then hear some sounds. At the initiation they say don't let anyone see you doing this part of the method and quite often during group meditation initiates would cover themselves with a sheet or blanket while doing it. Ignore any sounds from the left, behind or below as they may be from Ghosts or demons, concentrate only sounds coming from the front, right and above. You'll hear 'heavenly' sounds which would be things like a harp, bells, whistles, flute, bagpipe,etc... To increase the chance of hearing sounds sit in the squat position, another thing you can do to increase the likelihood of success in this method is keeping the left thumb fully inserted while having the right thumb inserted but not fully.

There are 5 levels of which you'll hear sounds from, sounds at each level may include:

5th Level - Trumpet
4th Level - Flute
3rd Level - Harp, guitar
2nd Level - Sea tide sound or temple bells, church bells
1st Level - Bells, wind
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