But I would rather live here than in Germany where they have death squads running around killing immigrants.
About Germany. I read in Wiki that about 20% of the population in my home country has immigrant roots and around 30% of German children born today have at least one parent born abroad. Without checking crime statistics, it seems to me that, statistically speaking, foreigners in Germany live a safer life than foreigners in Taiwan. Immigrants in Germany have more rights and are more involved in public life and maybe most importantly more foreigners are given the chance to live and stay in my country as compared to yours. And, compare the numbers of foreign nationals who actually chose live inside both countries.
Without doubt, just 60 years after a terrible genocidal racist regime, today's Germany is more open to foreigners and immigration than todays Taiwan choses to be. Compare the numbers of foreign students, look at the number of scholarships for foreigners etc etc. There is simply no comparison between your country and mine. As I see it you guys do beat us in the department of funky & grandiose slogans, patronizing attitudes and self-serving bias.
I absolutely don't think it is necessary to boast about Germany's openness, cause there are lots of problems, lots of dickheads and ignorance, lots of things to improve, but I think it is necessary to point out that Taiwan is in a different league altogether.
Touduke, sorry to bring this up again, but I can't let you spout German government propaganda about how "open" and "foreigner-friendly" Germany is today without letting people here know the full truth. You seem to have a very deluded view of your home country and seem ill-informed about what's going on in Germany on a daily basis. Do you ever read German news at all? Just visit http://www.tagesschau.de or http://www.spiegel.de on any given day and chances are very good you will find some news article about racism and xenophobia in Germany. And they don't do this out of sensationalism, but because racism in its ugliest form is very common and a HUGE problem in Germany, one that seems to get bigger and bigger. And I'm not talking about what YOU consider "racism" in Taiwan such as people addressing you in English or assuming that you are American and such trivial things (which of course also happen all the time in various forms in Germany).
The fact is, people get molested, spat at, verbally abused, physically attacked, maimed and sometimes even killed in Germany by Germans just because they are of a different race or ethnicity. I could tell you many stories documenting racism in Germany that I've experienced firsthand in my 30+ years of living in Germany as a Taiwanese, sometimes being the victim, sometimes just being a witness. Dr Spock's statement that there are "death squads running around killing immigrants" seems to be an overstatement made for effect, but sadly it is not far from the truth. I'm sure you've heard of the so-called "Nationalsozialistischer Untergrund" (National Socialist Underground), a recently uncovered Neonazi group (officials and media openly call it a "Neonazi terrorist organisation") responsible for the murder of at least ten immigrants within the last ten years. Read about it here: http://www.spiegel.de (it's been the headline news for the past week or two, so you can't miss it). Or read about it here: http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/rechtsextremismus2.html
For those who do not read German, there's an English version of the Spiegel news here: http://www.spiegel.de/international/ger ... 82,00.html
Here's a quote from the beginning of the article that sums it up: "Officials estimate that there are roughly 25,000 far-right extremists among Germany's almost 82 million residents. Still, their views enjoy much more support than the numbers would suggest. Here, SPIEGEL ONLINE takes a close look at just how rooted right-wing extremism is in Germany."
So how is Taiwan in a "different league" again?
Touduke, you are right that you have nothing to boast about when it comes to your home country, nothing at all. So forget your ideas about German superiority and Taiwanese inferiority once and for all. That kind of thinking is VERY old school, if you know what I mean.
PS: I'm not intentionally trying to put Germany down by any means, it used to also be my home country after all. I'm just trying to put things in perspective for you by telling some important facts that you seem not aware of or maybe just choose to deny.
Möchte darauf hinweisen, dass GC Rider hier Sachen unterstellt, die aus der Luft gegriffen sind. Das ist nicht sein erster persönlicher Angriff auf mich. Damit meine ich:
So forget your ideas about German superiority and Taiwanese inferiority once and for all. That kind of thinking is VERY old school, if you know what I mean.
ich hab dann geantwortet:
I thought "today's situation in Taiwan would be a dream come true for European racists". Those anti-immigration folks who want to send foreigners back to "their countries" and might vote for right wing parties in the UK, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany etc would gladly accept their countries to be a place like Taiwan, a place with few foreigners, where a big group of these foreigners is send home after a 1 or 2 year stay and the others are a tiny scattered minority and more a less a freak show. I bet that in such a situation most racist assholes in those European countries (or everywhere else) would gladly smile at a foreign face and engage in a little small talk praising language skills and the proper way of munching a sausage.
Basically every insecure xenophobe would start to hate something else.
I am not saying that all those nice Taiwanese smiling at us, praising our Chinese stammering etc. are racists or right wing folks. Not at all. But I think that their chance to prove that they are open minded and welcoming to a increasing foreign population that is staying in their country and not just passing has yet to come.
Right now, I don't think racism is a problem for white folks in Taiwan, I agree with those who say we benefit from positive racism. If you are not white, it is a totally different story already today.
Ich hab keine Lust mir von GC Rider die Nazi-Karte zuschieben zu lassen. Meine Jahre in Taiwan haben meine Einstellung zu Deutschland verändert, gerade was Immigration und Ausländerpolitik angeht. Früher hab ich mich oft für deutsche Ausländerfeindlichkeit geschämt.
Heute pack ich mir an den Kopf und denke, dass Deutschland im Vergleich zu Taiwan - wo ein westlicher Ausländer bestaunt und bekichert, großzügig gelobt und neugierig bis verbissen ausgefragt wird und asiatische 'foreign labor' ausgebeutet und mies behandelt werden und man ihnen keine Chance gibt im Land zu bleiben - ein hocherleuchtetes Land ist. Ich denke immer noch dass Deutschland mehr tun müsste, um Menschen aus anderen Ecken der Welt sich wohlfühlen zu lassen, ich sehe aber auch ganz deutlich wie schwierig das ist. Dabei hilft mir mein tägliches Dasein als Ausländer hier in Taichung.
Wie einfach ist es mit einem Ausländer umzugehen, der ganz anders ist und denkt, wenn er eine Rarität ist. Ein Traum für deutsche Rassisten, einzeln auftretende Ausländer als Gäste behandeln zu können und ihnen in einem small talk Kultur & Freundlichkeit und Herrlichkeit Deutschlands großzügig näher bringen zu können.
Da wo ich in Deutschland herkomme (Großraum Köln) bin ich auf Straßen und öffentlichen Verkehrsmitteln als Deutscher oft in der Minderheit. Ähnlich ist die Situation z.B. auch in Grundschulen, die Kinder von Freunden besuchen, usw, etc.
Wie würden Taiwaner reagieren, wenn sich ihr Land in diese Richtung verändern würde?
Was wird passieren, wenn der Punkt gekommen ist, dass ein "Ni hao, ni de guo yu hen hao" oder "Mama ni kan, yi ge wai gu ren" einfach nur noch unpraktisch ist, weil so viel Adogas auf den Straßen rumlaufen und im 7/11 an der Kassenschlange stehen?