Crazy working hours..

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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby PigBloodCake » 10 Jan 2012, 15:06

It's the same in Silly-con Valley, folks (well, except for the compensation).

10PM might be a bit tad late but 7-8pm is the norm.

Furthermore, as a software professional, you might have to do a few midnight meetings with folks from Bangalore (oh joy!!!).
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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby steelersman » 10 Jan 2012, 15:14

milkalex wrote:it's normal get used to it, Taiwanese never sleep


Yes they do. On Sunday their day off.

Don't worry, many Taiwanese don't have any hobbies. After spending their entire childhood at a buxiban what else would they do besides work and sleep.
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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby Taiwan Luthiers » 11 Jan 2012, 00:22

I just become my own boss, fixing guitars and basses.

Only need to work 4 hours a day, and that's if I give myself more stuff to do (like adjusting the bandsaw, building a demo guitar, making jigs, etc.)

Sometimes I do work overtime just because I can't think of anything else to do.

But then it's also my hobby...

Right now customers are rather thin but I am sure in time things will improve.
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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby bumclouds » 04 Apr 2012, 23:33

Damage wrote:Excuse my ignorance, but if they're working so many hours, are they legally supposed to be earning overtime pay?


Overtime pay????....

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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby tsukinodeynatsu » 05 Apr 2012, 00:50

Taiwan Luthiers wrote:I just become my own boss, fixing guitars and basses.

Only need to work 4 hours a day, and that's if I give myself more stuff to do (like adjusting the bandsaw, building a demo guitar, making jigs, etc.)

Sometimes I do work overtime just because I can't think of anything else to do.

But then it's also my hobby...

Right now customers are rather thin but I am sure in time things will improve.


Bit off topic, but where's your shop? And do you have a Chinese version of your website? I do a lot of music stuff and I'd be happy to share your links, but only one of my guitar-playing friends speaks English.
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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby Taiwan Luthiers » 05 Apr 2012, 00:54

tsukinodeynatsu wrote:
Taiwan Luthiers wrote:I just become my own boss, fixing guitars and basses.

Only need to work 4 hours a day, and that's if I give myself more stuff to do (like adjusting the bandsaw, building a demo guitar, making jigs, etc.)

Sometimes I do work overtime just because I can't think of anything else to do.

But then it's also my hobby...

Right now customers are rather thin but I am sure in time things will improve.


Bit off topic, but where's your shop? And do you have a Chinese version of your website? I do a lot of music stuff and I'd be happy to share your links, but only one of my guitar-playing friends speaks English.


My site is at http://taiwanluthiers.wordpress.com/

Should be in my sig, if not I will add it.

My shop is near a police station at Yangde blvd. at the base of Yangming Shan. I don't really have a Chinese website because my written Chinese isn't really that good. I've included most important info in Chinese but can't really write essays in Chinese. I do have pictures of my work, and they speak a thousand words (or characters).

For information on address,etc. please look here: http://taiwanluthiers.wordpress.com/營業方式/
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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby nonredneck » 15 Apr 2012, 06:38

Odd. At the place I visited in Taipei, I observed these working hours.

09:30-10:00 : Show up at work
10:00-11:30 : Tea / BS with co-workers / Facebook / surf the web
11:30-13:00 : Lunch
13:00-13:30 : After lunch nap /tea
13:30-19:00/20:00 : work.

So it seems like they only actually do 5.5/6.5 hours worth of real work, even though their day is 10.5 hours.
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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby steelersman » 15 Apr 2012, 08:04

nonredneck wrote:Odd. At the place I visited in Taipei, I observed these working hours.

09:30-10:00 : Show up at work
10:00-11:30 : Tea / BS with co-workers / Facebook / surf the web
11:30-13:00 : Lunch
13:00-13:30 : After lunch nap /tea
13:30-19:00/20:00 : work.

So it seems like they only actually do 5.5/6.5 hours worth of real work, even though their day is 10.5 hours.


Great but I can make better use of my time than spending 4 hours in a Taiwanese company doing nothing useful.

I guess one has a lot of time to read Apple Daily.
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Re: Crazy working hours..

Postby flike » 15 Apr 2012, 09:33

nonredneck wrote:Odd. At the place I visited in Taipei, I observed these working hours.

09:30-10:00 : Show up at work
10:00-11:30 : Tea / BS with co-workers / Facebook / surf the web
11:30-13:00 : Lunch
13:00-13:30 : After lunch nap /tea
13:30-19:00/20:00 : work.

So it seems like they only actually do 5.5/6.5 hours worth of real work, even though their day is 10.5 hours.

Not an unusual workday in an over-worked workforce. You'll see a similar pattern in the US, or any other holiday-poor economy, where people are starved of personal time. It's not a state that deserves scorn, imo.

These workers need more time off.
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Crazy working hours..

Postby headhonchoII » 15 Apr 2012, 09:55

It's common for Taiwanese to come in a little late due to overtime the previous day. Taiwanese often work weekends too.
Not enough holidays and time off, spot on.

The workers don't want to work late, but they have no other choice in many cases. Meetings are often scheduled at 6pm or 7pm. If you leave early you risk losing your job.
Well you say, just take the risk , but maybe they need the money and most importantly the next place of employment will likely be the same.
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