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getting caught tutoring

Postby chris1234 » 04 May 2012, 07:58

So, I've heard that it is illegal to work or volunteer for anything where there isn't a work visa. I've seen posts about people getting in trouble for working with a school or modeling agency without a visa. For people who are already in Taiwan, how likely is it that you'd get in trouble (e.g. booted out of the country) for doing private tutoring? I've seen ads on places like tealit. I'm wondering if people put ads in papers or public places (e.g. local churches) too for selling their private tutoring services without being bothered about/ having any trouble. What's your experience on that front?
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby tomthorne » 04 May 2012, 08:06

They'd have to set up some kind of a sting with an FAP guy pretending to be a student. I've never heard of it happening. There's a couple of posters on here who claim that they'd like to do it, though :D . If you meet a student who smells strongly of cheese - run like the wind!
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby finley » 04 May 2012, 09:38

I've only just realised that Foreign Affairs Police abbreviates as FAP. That made my day.

Anyway, as tomthorne just said, it would be pretty much impossible to prove that an informal arrangement counts as tutoring without a "sting", and I honestly can't imagine them bothering. OTOH you are guilty until proven innocent in any kind of visa/work-related issue, and you can be kicked out on a moment's notice. There are plenty of horror stories on here. Personally, I wouldn't like to take the risk given the trivial amounts of money involved.
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getting caught tutoring

Postby headhonchoII » 04 May 2012, 09:39

Just refuse to sign anything , that's the golden rule. No comprendo, don't sign it.
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby sandman » 04 May 2012, 16:30

There's a fellow who goes by the name of Heidi on these boards. He lives in the alps, smells of cheese and makes his living ratting out other people. It is something he finds honourable, but then, he's Swiss.
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby Homey » 04 May 2012, 20:01

The idiotic thing about it is the volunteers being lumped in the with the ones working for a profit. What a stupid thing for a country to do. What harm does it do if someone who is otherwise 100% legal decides to help out people and actually make a positive difference in Taiwan?

Damn criminals who want to help Taiwanese people for free, get the bums out of the country. It's much better if they're out drinking and womanizing. :loco:
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby bigduke6 » 04 May 2012, 21:40

sandman wrote:There's a fellow who goes by the name of Heidi on these boards. He lives in the alps, smells of cheese and makes his living ratting out other people. It is something he finds honourable, but then, he's Swiss.


Apparently his family have been there for 40 years, but they cannot get citizenship. I believe his previous position involved reporting St Bernards with mange and illegal yodellers.
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby finley » 04 May 2012, 21:45

Homey wrote:It's much better if they're are out drinking and womanizing. :loco:

Quite so. Do you realise how much cash Apple Daily can make selling stories about bignoses and the depraved things they do to innocent Taiwanese girls?

Who gives a shit about helping people when there are corporate taxes to collect?
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby WelcomeAndy » 19 Jun 2012, 14:58

I just came back from the US. I am glad to read your concerns. Well.. immigration sucks everywhere in the world !
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Re: getting caught tutoring

Postby Belgian Pie » 19 Jun 2012, 15:42

Homey wrote:The idiotic thing about it is the volunteers being lumped in the with the ones working for a profit. What a stupid thing for a country to do. What harm does it do if someone who is otherwise 100% legal decides to help out people and actually make a positive difference in Taiwan?

Damn criminals who want to help Taiwanese people for free, get the bums out of the country. It's much better if they're out drinking and womanizing. :loco:


You can apply for it with the CLA ... I think :ponder:
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