honolulu86 wrote: John wrote:
honolulu86 wrote:I would be happy to work 60 hours a week for 20,000 ntd a month for the next six years,
That is exactly what we (the employEES) do NOT need in Taiwan.
I'm sorry, I don't want to push down people's wages! That's not what I meant. My point is, whether in the USA or anywhere else I am willing to start at the bottom and make whatever sacrifices need to be made. It is something that needs to be done in almost every industry I think, and this is true everywhere. I don't expect to get something great without putting a great deal of work into it
I think there is risk in every decision, whether it is getting a phd, going to law school, moving to DC to look for jobs, trying to find fulfilling work in Taiwan/China, or something else. I would bet that if you look at the numbers, the majority of people who make one of these choices right now will feel disappointed in the decision seven years from now...but some will be very successful, and what are the alternatives? I think in this situation the best thing you can do is find something you are passionate and just do your best
Problem is that your dedication would not be rewarded in Taiwan. The loyalty concept is not that ingrained, and keeping valuable employees is usually through scare tactics and even blackmail. The attitudes are very different, because the conditions are different.
We were talking about this the other day, because I noticed some tactics at work, which I compared to other places, and seem a bit across the board. Every applicant is offered a lower salary than the first salary the person he replaced got. They always try to get the cheapest bidder. Also, bosses favor employees to manipulate conditions, and the company's regulations would most probably foster division by rewarding some at the cost of punishing the rest. Locals stay for the bonuses, the most loyal of employees will be perceived as weak and hence treated as disposable, hence ensuring this person's dependence on the company. Guanxi rules, so expect a lot of "pandering" and kowtowing if you want any continuity, this will be the measure of your success, not your achievements or contributions to the company.
Unless you are in a real foreign company, you come here, with a plan, set your time, get what you came to get, and go. Without the goal and time schedule, no way. Six years would be too long, unless you plan on becoming totally fluent in Mandarin. I am going to tell you what I was told when I stated this as my goal: then you'd be competing against thousands of Overseas Chinese and millions of Chinese in the Mainland. They will have better command of Mandarin that you'd ever dream of, and have the home advantage, so, make it part of the goal, not the end itself. Add to it, don't skip it, enrich it, but it is not the sole thing that can make you a shoo-in after you go back out there. And as you have heard, back you will unless you get a ball and chain -marry- or actually succeed as an entrepreneur -and then you have to expand probably.