Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby divea » 08 Mar 2011, 17:11

sandman wrote:
e30rusty wrote:
sandman wrote:
Most of the people I deal with are much older than I am. With ages ranging from the mid-thirties through to the forties. Suffice to say, age is a poor measuring stick for one's character.

Holy SHIT! After all this, and it turns out that you're just a KID! Get WITH the PROGRAM, Youngster! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Or go someplace else and discover that hell! Us kids are treated as ... KIDS! It's an INJUSTICE! is what it is, no denying! :lol: :lol: :lol:


I am 32 & look 25. Yeah, sucks to be young.

No it doesn't. It's called "life experience." Good GOLLY! Miss MOLLY! I done done alla that college stuff and all! And STILL I'm at the bottom of the heap! Its just not FAAAIR!

He is 32, he is NOT a kid. OKAY???? :grandpa:
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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby sandman » 08 Mar 2011, 17:24

divea wrote:
sandman wrote:
e30rusty wrote:
sandman wrote:
Most of the people I deal with are much older than I am. With ages ranging from the mid-thirties through to the forties. Suffice to say, age is a poor measuring stick for one's character.

Holy SHIT! After all this, and it turns out that you're just a KID! Get WITH the PROGRAM, Youngster! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Or go someplace else and discover that hell! Us kids are treated as ... KIDS! It's an INJUSTICE! is what it is, no denying! :lol: :lol: :lol:


I am 32 & look 25. Yeah, sucks to be young.

No it doesn't. It's called "life experience." Good GOLLY! Miss MOLLY! I done done alla that college stuff and all! And STILL I'm at the bottom of the heap! Its just not FAAAIR!

He is 32, he is NOT a kid. OKAY???? :grandpa:

He very nearly is, though. He's CERTAINLY young enough that he can be told what to do, when to do it, and to shut the fuck up in the meantime. Or find another job... :lol:
By the way, the above might very well be my own personal opinion, but it IS also the pervasive opinion of the people you're looking for employment from. Suck it up, kiddo! :lol:
WE all had to go through it when WE were kids, so why should YOU be any exception? :lol:
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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby TheLostSwede » 08 Mar 2011, 17:36

Age has nothing to do with knowledge, but apparently some of the "older" generation still seem to be of this misconception...
For those of us that work in the technology industry, is generally better to be younger, as you're more likely to be up to date with the latest in technology rather than being stuck in the past doing things the old fashioned way which is unlikely to lead to the best solutions and/or products.
But never mind, you believe what you want, old man...
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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby finley » 08 Mar 2011, 17:39

Agree. 32 is plenty old enough to be at a high level in a tech career. Any older than 40 and you'll be more knowledgeable, but a bit stuck in your ways.

The only exception to that would be a certain type of Taiwanese guy in his 30's who has amassed a collection of advanced degrees in order to avoid military service, and consequently has never had a real job...
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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby *monkey* » 08 Mar 2011, 17:41

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So there's the root of the problem: because employers don't expect anything better, the true stars (and there are plenty) get paid the same as the useless trolls who sit at their desk and play warcraft, and are not given the freedom to express their considerable talents. And their hiring companies continue to churn out the same dumb crap until they're out-manoeuvred by China. Here's the funny thing: when we were describing our job offer to potential employees, we told them the position had great scope for self-improvement and they would be pretty much in charge of their own work. They were absolutely terrified. As our (Taiwanese) agent gently explained to me afterwards, what they really wanted was to settle into a comfy chair in a big anonymous office and learn nothing else for the rest of their lives.


I think you are spot on with almost all your observations. Lazy and less talented employees know they can coast in a noncompetitive environment, and so they do. It’s a very different work environment from the west because managers in Taiwan and China place a high emphasis on harmony in the workplace (I’d say they rate harmony as second place, behind profit but ahead of quality and safety.)
Western companies, of course are often very competitive and there’s nothing that cheers up a bored manager faster than a good catfight between two workers. Whereas a western manager would gain respect for intervening and settling a workplace dispute, Chinese-style management emphasizes never letting things get ugly in the first place. The only way Chinese managers can do this is to overlook perceived differences among employees and treat them the same, regardless of ability and work ethic.
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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby sandman » 08 Mar 2011, 17:42

TheLostSwede wrote:Age has nothing to do with knowledge, but apparently some of the "older" generation still seem to be of this misconception...

But never mind, you believe what you want, old man...

So the answer is simple -- hire yourself! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby TheLostSwede » 08 Mar 2011, 17:46

sandman wrote:So the answer is simple -- hire yourself! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


I did...

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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby sandman » 08 Mar 2011, 17:49

TheLostSwede wrote:
sandman wrote:So the answer is simple -- hire yourself! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


I did...

So you should tell that to the OP.
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Re: Salary in a technology company for 13 years of experience

Postby TheLostSwede » 08 Mar 2011, 17:59

It's not exactly easy and I work in a very different field from him, as in as much as it's related to the tech industry, I'm not actually in the tech industry...
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