Gay Marriage Part 2 (4/2012-11/2013)

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Gay Marriage Part 2 (4/2012-11/2013)

Postby PigBloodCake » 11 Apr 2012, 10:35

Moderator's note: Split from the original 37 pages long gay marriage thread, because this post seems like the perfect place to start part 2.


First high court hearing on gay marriage (in Chinese):

http://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E5%90%8C%E5%BF%97%E5%A9%9A%E5%A7%BB%E5%AE%98%E5%8F%B8%E9%96%8B%E5%BA%AD-%E9%9B%99%E6%96%B9%E6%AF%8D%E8%A6%AA%E5%8A%9B%E6%8C%BA-203116988.html

Both moms are supportive of their boys.

高治瑋 is probably the wife in this case since 陳敬學 calls his parents 岳父, 岳母.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs are calling on the govt's violation of the constitution by denying their marriage certification since there is nowhere in the ROC constitution which dictates that same-sex cannot be married.

This should be interesting. :popcorn:
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Re: gay marriage

Postby bismarck » 11 Apr 2012, 11:07

PigBloodCake wrote:First high court hearing on gay marriage (in Chinese):

http://tw.news.yahoo.com/%E5%90%8C%E5%BF%97%E5%A9%9A%E5%A7%BB%E5%AE%98%E5%8F%B8%E9%96%8B%E5%BA%AD-%E9%9B%99%E6%96%B9%E6%AF%8D%E8%A6%AA%E5%8A%9B%E6%8C%BA-203116988.html

Both moms are supportive of their boys.

高治瑋 is probably the wife in this case since 陳敬學 calls his parents 岳父, 岳母.

Lawyers for the plaintiffs are calling on the govt's violation of the constitution by denying their marriage certification since there is nowhere in the ROC constitution which dictates that same-sex cannot be married.

This should be interesting. :popcorn:

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Re: gay marriage

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Re: gay marriage

Postby magnolia » 11 Apr 2012, 14:35

:bravo:

Oh, and I think the "new daughter-in-law, or son" bit in the English translation is quite funny!
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Re: gay marriage

Postby PigBloodCake » 11 Apr 2012, 22:11

magnolia wrote::bravo:

Oh, and I think the "new daughter-in-law, or son" bit in the English translation is quite funny!


The Chinese article, written by Liberty Times, states that Chen's family displayed their genealogy form in front of the court house with Kao(Gao)'s name written in it as Chen's **spouse**.

"昨天陳、高兩家人在法院外,拉開長長的陳氏家譜,證明已經將高治瑋以陳敬學配偶的身分列入陳家族譜。"

Now that's gutsy!
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Re: Gay Marriage Part 2 (April 2012)

Postby PigBloodCake » 11 Apr 2012, 23:02

Yahoo! Kimo (奇摩) survey on Gay Marriage.

56% support with 34% non-support (11% no opinion)....1572 votes so far.

Here's the snip in Chinese:

時事民調

請問你是否贊成同志婚姻合法化?

贊成
56%
不贊成
34%
沒意見
11%

自2012/04/11起過去12小時總計1,572票
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Re: Gay Marriage Part 2 (April 2012)

Postby bismarck » 12 Apr 2012, 00:16

PigBloodCake wrote:Yahoo! Kimo (奇摩) survey on Gay Marriage.

56% support with 34% non-support (11% no opinion)....1572 votes so far.

Here's the snip in Chinese:

時事民調

請問你是否贊成同志婚姻合法化?

贊成
56%
不贊成
34%
沒意見
11%

自2012/04/11起過去12小時總計1,572票

Well, that's encouraging! :thumbsup:
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Re: Gay Marriage Part 2 (4/2012-)

Postby magnolia » 12 Apr 2012, 08:09

The Chinese article, written by Liberty Times, states that Chen's family displayed their genealogy form in front of the court house with Kao(Gao)'s name written in it as Chen's **spouse**.

"昨天陳、高兩家人在法院外,拉開長長的陳氏家譜,證明已經將高治瑋以陳敬學配偶的身分列入陳家族譜。"

Now that's gutsy!

It is indeed! And while I personally find it rather amusing and dated (one has to be the top, and one has to be the bottom; they both can't be husbands), it also struck me that this might well be the way that gay marriage can move forward in a culture like Taiwan's. It has historical precedent in Chinese and other Asian cultures, as well as in the west (you can still be a "man" if your partner is somehow submissive/subservient). It would be ironic, given the equality based approach to partnerships we have (only recently) got used to in the west, but if it works, I'm down that aisle in a frock like a flash! I hail these boys, and their mums! Can't wait to see how this turns out.
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Re: Gay Marriage Part 2 (April 2012)

Postby PigBloodCake » 12 Apr 2012, 10:23

bismarck wrote:
PigBloodCake wrote:Yahoo! Kimo (奇摩) survey on Gay Marriage.

56% support with 34% non-support (11% no opinion)....1572 votes so far.

Here's the snip in Chinese:

時事民調

請問你是否贊成同志婚姻合法化?

贊成
56%
不贊成
34%
沒意見
11%

自2012/04/11起過去12小時總計1,572票

Well, that's encouraging! :thumbsup:



Keep in mind though that Taiwan is not a Christian based country and so we don't have as many bible thumping hicks as........ahem :whistle:
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Re: Gay Marriage Part 2 (4/2012-)

Postby Chris » 12 Apr 2012, 14:18

About a decade ago it seems Taiwan was considering extending marriage rights to gays. But that initiative seems to have been lost on the shelves. It would be great if Taiwan became the first Asian country to legalize gay marriage. Hurry up, Taiwan, Nepal may clinch that honor!
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