fruitloop wrote:The aforementioned shirt is, a bit camp."
Almas John said that early in this discussion. . .
almas john wrote:Oh I say, that shirt is awfully camp!
and I thought that was a great alternative, but I don't know how well it would work for most Americans. Seems like more of a Commonwealth expression, or at least something said by a professor or a film critic or a homosexual, and not by most mainstream heterosexuals. If one said it one might be taunted for sounding gay.
Speaking of which, interesting OpEd piece and discussion in today's NYT.
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04 ... ng-gay/?em
Early this month, Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, an 11-year-old boy from Springfield, Mass., hanged himself after months of incessantly being hounded by his classmates for being “gay.” (He was not; but did, apparently, like to do well in school.)
In March, 2007, 17-year-old Eric Mohat shot himself in the head, after a long-term tormentor told him in class, “Why don’t you go home and shoot yourself; no one will miss you.” Eric liked theater, played the piano and wore bright clothing, a lawyer for his family told ABC news, and so had long been subject to taunts of “gay,” “fag,” “queer” and “homo.”
. . . words like “fag” and “gay” are now among the most potent and feared weapons in the school bully’s arsenal.
Being called a “fag,” you see, actually has almost nothing to do with being gay.
It’s really about showing any perceived weakness or femininity – by being emotional, seeming incompetent, caring too much about clothing, liking to dance or even having an interest in literature. It’s similar to what being viewed as a “nerd” is . . .
“To call someone gay or fag is like the lowest thing you can call someone. Because that’s like saying that you’re nothing,” is how one teenage boy put it to C.J. Pascoe, a sociologist . . .
Pascoe spent 18 months embedded in a Northern California working-class high school . . . “These kids experience a loss of masculine privilege on a day-to-day level,” she said. . . . they have the sense that to be a man means something and is incredibly important. These boys don’t know how to be that something. Their pathway to masculinity is unclear. To not be a man is to not be fully human and that’s terrifying.”
Oh, and as for TC's "porch monkey". . .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6OselVRTsM