Cigarette branding ... over and done?

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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby Teddoman » 31 May 2012, 21:47

Maybe alcohol and cigarettes will be treated differently. Although there are alcoholics, which have big social costs, alcoholics are vastly outnumbered by casual drinkers who show no ill effects from drinking (and I think I've even read one drink a day is correlated with longer life).

Whereas I would guess most cigarette smokers are addicted at some level. And long term smoking, even at low levels, is probably correlated with more medical expense (and often borne by the public).
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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby Dragonbones » 01 Jun 2012, 00:07

I rather like the olive green color.
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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby Chris » 01 Jun 2012, 00:14

Nuit wrote:I remember long-haul flights in the 90s, seated just in front of the smoking section that was at the back of the plane. Wafts of nicotine washing forward over you.

I remember that dreaded seat... right in front of the smoking section (which was in no way partitioned from the "non-smoking" section... as if smoke doesn't drift :roll: ).

What I did was reach up to the air blowers above me, turn them to full blast, and point all three of them back toward the smoking seats. That at least helped minimize the drift.
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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby jimipresley » 01 Jun 2012, 00:31

Chris wrote:
Nuit wrote:I remember long-haul flights in the 90s, seated just in front of the smoking section that was at the back of the plane. Wafts of nicotine washing forward over you.

I remember that dreaded seat... right in front of the smoking section (which was in no way partitioned from the "non-smoking" section... as if smoke doesn't drift :roll: ).

What I did was reach up to the air blowers above me, turn them to full blast, and point all three of them back toward the smoking seats. That at least helped minimize the drift.

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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby tommy525 » 01 Jun 2012, 02:45

I tell you whats bad? To get a hotel room thats a smokers room. Because they ran out of non smoking rooms. Yech ! It gets you coughing because you are in that room for the night.
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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby superking » 01 Jun 2012, 03:10

In some supermarkets here in the UK now they are not allowed to display the cigarettes so they have them all hidden behind a locked sliding cupboard with a massive sign saying it's illegal to sell them to those under age. If you want ciggies you have to say what you want then they go surreptitiously and get them. It is all very cloak and dagger. I wonder if it heightens the mystery of the whole thing for young kids, thus drawing them in.

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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby Petrichor » 01 Jun 2012, 03:47

Steviebike wrote:
Belgian Pie wrote:It's not about the images perse, but about the non-branding, colours, logos, making it (not)appealing to young new smokers ...


I think those cool new graphics will do the job on selling ciggies to kiddies. TBH I liked all the advertising and designs the cigarette brands used, but that was then and this is now. It's the right thing to do. Cigarette companies are focusing markets in like Taiwan, where the have more freedom. I think they will eventually get chased out of every country (read, heavily controlled). Does the tax revenue outweigh the cost of the health system?


There was some research on this and the answer was yes, or rather that smokers (and the obese) contributed more to the economy than they took from it in healthcare. It was because they pay more tax and die young, so saving the expense of old age care.
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Re: Cigarette branding ... over and done?

Postby dasmania » 01 Jun 2012, 03:53

Petrichor wrote:
Steviebike wrote:
Belgian Pie wrote:It's not about the images perse, but about the non-branding, colours, logos, making it (not)appealing to young new smokers ...


I think those cool new graphics will do the job on selling ciggies to kiddies. TBH I liked all the advertising and designs the cigarette brands used, but that was then and this is now. It's the right thing to do. Cigarette companies are focusing markets in like Taiwan, where the have more freedom. I think they will eventually get chased out of every country (read, heavily controlled). Does the tax revenue outweigh the cost of the health system?


There was some research on this and the answer was yes, or rather that smokers (and the obese) contributed more to the economy than they took from it in healthcare. It was because they pay more tax and die young, so saving the expense of old age care.


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