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South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby Chuanzao El Ale Destroyer » 06 Jun 2012, 08:49

http://www.nature.com/news/south-korea- ... ds-1.10773

Mention creationism, and many scientists think of the United States, where efforts to limit the teaching of evolution have made headway in a couple of states1. But the successes are modest compared with those in South Korea, where the anti-evolution sentiment seems to be winning its battle with mainstream science.

A petition to remove references to evolution from high-school textbooks claimed victory last month after the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology (MEST) revealed that many of the publishers would produce revised editions that exclude examples of the evolution of the horse or of avian ancestor Archaeopteryx.




I didn't know this was possible in South Korea. Or in any Asian country. Could it happen here? In China?

I have met the odd foreigner here and there who believed in Creationism. One Canadian and a handfull of Europeans, shockingly. I met some creationist Isralis in Thailand, but that doesn't shock me as much. But I thought Asians would be less likely. What's going on?
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 06 Jun 2012, 09:29

Evangelical missionaries. I know there are other denominations represented in East Asia, but the evangelicals seem to be out in force. It's why non-Catholic Christians here typically don't believe Catholics are Chistians. Ask someone who is Anglican or Lutheran the same question and they'll say that Catholics are Christians. They'll also be able to live with evolution being taught in schools. The strain of Christianity that is growing fastest (if it isn't already the biggest) in East Asia is evangelical Christianity. I haven't met a few evangelicals here. I've met frickin' huge numbers of them.
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby Icon » 06 Jun 2012, 10:31

They are a very strong political force in Central America, with legislative and presidential representatives, very dangerous by itself, not even needing to join forces with the Catholics. They have managed to ban medical abortions, IV fertilization, sex education, and have advocated persecution of the GLTS community. All the while gathering obscene amounts of money, and giving nothing back to the communities. No schools, no day care, no hospitals, no charities.
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby Chuanzao El Ale Destroyer » 06 Jun 2012, 10:35

Icon, GuyInTaiwan,

Thanks. I'm depressed now, but I never knew it was so worldwide.
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 06 Jun 2012, 10:56

Chuanzao: It sure is. Missionaries go everywhere, but it doesn't surprise me that there are so many in Taiwan and Korea (you really haven't seen them?). They're not silly. They go where the money is. If you want to pray, you need to pay. I've heard that belonging to a church (or even a club like Rotary, which is also popular) is a way of networking. Thus, wealthy people seek out wealthy people. Wealthy people also tend to have political influence. Thus, if you wanted to affect a country's stance on any of these hot button issues, you wouldn't go and try to convert a whole bunch of poor farmers in a village somewhere. When I lived in Taoyuan, there was an area not too far from me that was a wealthy area. I don't think it's coincidental that there was also a large Mormon church there.

This is where atheists aren't as smart as they could be. If they had an atheist society that was basically a big networking club, they'd get smart, rich, influential people there and they could effect change.
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby Chris » 06 Jun 2012, 11:34

Chuanzao El Ale Destroyer wrote:I didn't know this was possible in South Korea. Or in any Asian country. Could it happen here? In China?

I could see it happening in South Korea... it's a country highly affected by fundamentalist Christian cults. I couldn't see it happening in any other east Asian country, barring perhaps the Philippines. But then again, they're heavily Catholic, and Catholic doctrine accepts evolution.

I anyone fighting against this crazy creationism in Korea?
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby finley » 06 Jun 2012, 12:04

OP, you must have seen the white-shirted guys on pushbikes? Mormon (or JW - I forget which) missionaries. I've met ONE Christian here ... and a whole load of cult-followers. One good friend was caught up in one of these cults, which required her to commit a large fraction of her life to what was basically unpaid labour for "the church", as well as follow a bunch of weird rules. I don't think Asians are more susceptible to extreme beliefs and compliance than (say) Americans; it's just that most of the missionaries here are of the fundamentalist, follow-our-rules-or-you-go-to-hell variety, so that's what spreads.
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby SillyWilly » 06 Jun 2012, 13:18

Don't really know why anyone is so surprised. Evolution is only a scientific theory, not scientific fact (as in empirically observable or provable). Scientific theories that can't stand up to scrutiny are not worthy to be taught to children.

Scientific "faith-based" theories, like evolution, and other religious dogma should not be taught in schools at all.
Until late 16th century, the popular "scientific" belief was that the sun revolved around the earth. And for thousands of years it was believed that alchemy was "scientifically" possible. Guess they were wrong.

Pseudoscience is NOT true science.

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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby archylgp » 06 Jun 2012, 13:23

SillyWilly wrote:Don't really know why anyone is so surprised. Evolution is only a scientific theory, not scientific fact (as in empirically observable or provable). Scientific theories that can't stand up to scrutiny are not worthy to be taught to children.

Scientific "faith-based" theories, like evolution, and other religious dogma should not be taught in schools at all.
Until late 16th century, the popular "scientific" belief was that the sun revolved around the earth. And for thousands of years it was believed that alchemy was "scientifically" possible. Guess they were wrong.

Pseudoscience is NOT true science.

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It is observable, lol. I suggest you read an introductory biology book...
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Re: South Korea to remove evolution from textbooks

Postby trubadour » 06 Jun 2012, 13:29

SillyWilly wrote:Don't really know why anyone is so surprised. Evolution is only a scientific theory, not scientific fact (as in empirically observable or provable). Scientific theories that can't stand up to scrutiny are not worthy to be taught to children.

Scientific "faith-based" theories, like evolution, and other religious dogma should not be taught in schools at all.
Until late 16th century, the popular "scientific" belief was that the sun revolved around the earth. And for thousands of years it was believed that alchemy was "scientifically" possible. Guess they were wrong.

Pseudoscience is NOT true science.

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2cents?!

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