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Taiwan's Falling Suicide Rate

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Re: Taiwan's Falling Suicide Rate

Postby jesus80 » 16 Dec 2013, 21:20

I remember that before coming over to Taiwan I read that China and Taiwan kinda lead the suicidals chart, specially the femenine contest. This was somehow related in my mind with hard work (slavery) and sexist husbands. Not sure how right or off my assumptions are.
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Re: Taiwan's Falling Suicide Rate

Postby Icon » 16 Dec 2013, 21:34

Usually, the whole family "suicides" together. Parents or one of the parents takes the kids along.

Extreme was last big one, 6 people, as granpa set up the gas and son,pregnant daughter in law, nanny and tw kids were simply gone because granpa was upset since son disagreed with his choice of new wife.

Then murder suicide, like bf kills gf and then kills himself, also very common.

Used to be a lot of suicides during big exam week, like college entrance ones. I do not think that is the case anymore.

Recently, there was some discussion in the news, ss a pretty, young woman jumped off Bitan bridge because she couldn't find a job.

We also had a close one here, the young laoban of the noodle shop. Friendly guy, always smiling. His family was devastated. Interestingly, the neighbors only commented on his lack of filial piety. *sigh*
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Re: Taiwan's Falling Suicide Rate

Postby jesus80 » 16 Dec 2013, 21:52

Reading you it just came to my mind what her grand father told a coworker: "life's too long. I'm bored, all my friends are dead, etc". The dude really wanted to die... out of boredom. I'm wondering how common is this feeling here...
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Re: Taiwan's Falling Suicide Rate

Postby headhonchoII » 16 Dec 2013, 23:32

Icon wrote:Usually, the whole family "suicides" together. Parents or one of the parents takes the kids along.

Extreme was last big one, 6 people, as granpa set up the gas and son,pregnant daughter in law, nanny and tw kids were simply gone because granpa was upset since son disagreed with his choice of new wife.

Then murder suicide, like bf kills gf and then kills himself, also very common.

Used to be a lot of suicides during big exam week, like college entrance ones. I do not think that is the case anymore.

Recently, there was some discussion in the news, ss a pretty, young woman jumped off Bitan bridge because she couldn't find a job.

We also had a close one here, the young laoban of the noodle shop. Friendly guy, always smiling. His family was devastated. Interestingly, the neighbors only commented on his lack of filial piety. *sigh*


You never know , people just bottle it up. Reach out and help the smiley ones too.

Another recent case.. there was a young rich lady educated in the US who had an affair with a married man here, got pregnant, had an abortion the month before and perhaps regretted it. Started drinking, decided she wanted to see the guy, he didn't want anything to do with her, she insisted to drive to his house even though she was drunk. Never made it, crashed and burned. Suicide or not, people just crack here in God awful ways.
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Taiwan's Falling Suicide Rate

Postby hsinhai78 » 17 Dec 2013, 11:13

Not to seem cold or heartless - but I notice a pattern: whereas a lot of people in the West kill themselves because of some voice telling them to do so (I have a trauma surgeon in my family, he could attest that those who survive the first attempt usually come across as psychotic), whereas in Taiwan people are simply unable to cope with everyday life situations.

This girl who jumped off the bridge in Bitan had a job, she was a waitress in a hot pot restaurant. All she had to worry about was some debt she incurred in one of these get-rich-quick snowball systems selling cosmetics - not more than 200,000 NT$! But instead of paying it off in installments and trying to improve her situation - after all she did not attend university - she decided life is too hard and jumps off a bridge. Ridiculous reason.

And another uniquely Asian pattern: risking others while committing suicide. Entire families die because someone decides to asphyxiate themselves with a charcoal burner. Or a pregnant woman dies because some asshole jumps off a building and falls on her.

I better not let someone lose face today....
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Re: Taiwan's Falling Suicide Rate

Postby headhonchoII » 17 Dec 2013, 11:33

What I heard about that girl was she was supporting her family and her grandmother was a trash collector, no money. So 200,000 ntd debt, after years of scrabbling, may have looked a tidal wave to her.
It may have been a rational decision on her part to end her perceived suffering and poor prospects.
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