Prayers for Mark Part 3

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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby maoman » 26 May 2010, 11:35

I updated the link in the OP. Here it is again: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/ ... 2003359359
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby TheGingerMan » 26 May 2010, 15:21

Tony the Tiger wrote:Can someone give a summary of the accident?

Late one Wednesday night in late Sept. 2006, Mark was driving from Zhong-li to Taoyuan City to meet a friend. He was unsure of the actual place to meet up, and actually drove past his friend who was waiting on Cheng-Kung Road, close to the stadium. After making a u-turn, Mark collided with the road divider, and his head struck a tree. He was driving an old 50.cc scooter, with a cheap skullcap type helmet. Another few metres and he would have been clear of that tree-lined divider. No-one knows what caused the accident, if there was another party involved, or if it was entirely Mark's fault. The police refused to let anyone see the video surveillance footage, and in the end it just disappeared.
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby Tony the Tiger » 27 May 2010, 11:20

TheGingerMan wrote:The police refused to let anyone see the video surveillance footage, and in the end it just disappeared.


Say what?! Wow that is just ridiculous. Taiwanese corruption rears its ugly head once again.

How about Mark, was he able to recollect the events of that night? Or does he not remember anything from the accident?
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby Mark Nagel » 27 May 2010, 12:04

Tony the Tiger wrote:How about Mark, was he able to recollect the events of that night? Or does he not remember anything from the accident?

Ever since the accident, Mark has been unable to speak or eat (except baby food) or stand up or even hold his head up when he's sitting in a wheelchair. He can't even breathe on his own. (He has to use a respirator to breathe.) And he has to wear diapers.

So no one will ever know how much he can remember.
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby Tony the Tiger » 27 May 2010, 13:45

Mark Nagel wrote:
Tony the Tiger wrote:How about Mark, was he able to recollect the events of that night? Or does he not remember anything from the accident?

Ever since the accident, Mark has been unable to speak or eat (except baby food) or stand up or even hold his head up when he's sitting in a wheelchair. He can't even breathe on his own. (He has to use a respirator to breathe.) And he has to wear diapers.

So no one will ever know how much he can remember.


I am very sorry to hear that :(

I wish Mark the best and hope that he recovers someday.
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby TNT » 27 May 2010, 13:48

Tony the Tiger wrote:
TheGingerMan wrote:The police refused to let anyone see the video surveillance footage, and in the end it just disappeared.


Say what?! Wow that is just ridiculous. Taiwanese corruption rears its ugly head once again.

How about Mark, was he able to recollect the events of that night? Or does he not remember anything from the accident?


And whatever happened to the motorbike he was riding and helmet he was wearing?
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby Mother Theresa » 27 May 2010, 14:44

How or why makes no difference at all. The video, the motorbike, the helmet don't matter at all. There was no corruption and if there was it wouldn't make the least bit of difference. All of that is completely, overwhelmingly, absolutely trivial, meaningless and insignificant.

The only thing that matters is that poor Mark, once a big, strong, healthy, funny, vibrant human being, was devastatingly injured long ago, it will take a miracle for things to change significantly for the better (though one can certainly keep praying for such a miracle) and the lives of Mark, his wonderful wife and his beautiful children were permanently, drastically altered on that sad night. Hard to imagine what they've all been through. :(

Best of luck to all of them. Jiayou.
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby TheGingerMan » 27 May 2010, 15:14

Mother Theresa wrote:How or why makes no difference at all. The video, the motorbike, the helmet don't matter at all. There was no corruption and if there was it wouldn't make the least bit of difference. All of that is completely, overwhelmingly, absolutely trivial, meaningless and insignificant.

So say you, in some fatuous & puerile attempt at wisdom. Others, perhaps far closer to events of that night, felt differently. It would have been nice to be absolutlely sure that he was not the victim of some hit and run driver.
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby Mother Theresa » 27 May 2010, 15:38

TheGingerMan wrote:
Mother Theresa wrote:How or why makes no difference at all. The video, the motorbike, the helmet don't matter at all. There was no corruption and if there was it wouldn't make the least bit of difference. All of that is completely, overwhelmingly, absolutely trivial, meaningless and insignificant.

So say you, in some fatuous & puerile attempt at wisdom. Others, perhaps far closer to events of that night, felt differently. It would have been nice to be absolutlely sure that he wasnot the victim of some hit and run driver.

Whatever. I don't want to quibble with you, especially in this thread. I'm sure you get my point. How it happened is trivial compared to the fact that it did.
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Re: Prayers for Mark Part 3

Postby TheGingerMan » 27 May 2010, 16:29

It wouldn't reverse time, if that's what you mean. But viewing the tapes would have helped ease the frustration many of us felt, and still do feel. And it certainly was, and still is, by no means "absolutely trivial, meaningless and insignificant."
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