hardball wrote:sandman wrote:Well, ah'm DAMN proud to be white! I'm a-thinkin' of setting up a white pride organization, in fact.
But really, this is so outside my sphere of knowledge, not coming from the unholy land of the damned Murkinators. In my world, the neds and the creeps are predominantly white. Maybe in London most of the crime is done by Carribeans, but there 'aint hardly none of them where I was raised, so all the crooks and gangbangers were whitebread.
Typical Murkins. This is how it is in MY tiny little part of the world, so this is how it IS.

I agree with your conclusion, ie the American idea of exporting its psychosis...there's a book about how it's affecting the Japanese...Sick Like Us.
But, the typical American thing...hmm...I don't know any living culture in the world that enslaved one race and then bred them for farm labor for 400 years. It's ONLY been a hundred years and change that Africans were freed from forced labor. That does something to people on both sides.
I don't know any slaves and I don't know any slave-owners, and I don't think anyone else does either. But there IS a sense of NATIONAL, not personal guilt in the USA.
So, cut us some slack.
BTW, lupillus is dead spot on.

Add the UK, and a host of African countries. I think it was Henry Louis Gates recently wrote a little op-ed piece for the NYT talking about how in the realm of history we tend to forget the role African leaders played during Slavery. Slavery is heavily idetified with the US or vice versa, but we aren't the only guilty party. And when it comes to racism,

don't even try to brand us as main manufacturers of it. Quite a few of you are from countries *cough cough -- South Africa, Parts of Europe* where you have your own special sauce.
Lullipus wrote:How can one ever hope that the world will get past the issue of racial discrimination if one continually draws attention to it? Making it a big issue simply propagates the stereotype of racial differences.
It's a big money maker in the US. It drives politics and determines the social stratum and sets up power.
If all races are created equal, then this should be self-evident. Clearly then, all those who think otherwise are stupid bigots. What's the problem? Are you going to argue with every dog that barks at you?
I think it was all people are created equal, but when the Constitution was written, blacks weren't considered people. We were 3/4 of a man. So therefore we weren't "equals" in the eyes of the law.
Who cares what people of other races think? Why does it matter what other people think in general?
Is this a redundant question or teenage angst?
If one is secure in one's own personal/racial identity, then one will realize what all this fuss is about - utter, pointless garbage.
I love being black, could go all day singing James Brown "Say it Loud" (/sarcasm) but it's a "fuss" when the powers that be have an issue with "my love" and use it to maintain and gain power.
If not? Well, I guess there's always blaming others for their perception of you instead of wondering why they perceive you that way. Nothing is ever my fault, ya? I'm the victim here.
Before you point out the faults of others try stepping in their shoes. I'm not saying that anyone who says because of my XYZ I'm ABC but rather I'm willing to acknowledge somethings. Besides that who victim vs victor thing is a another power play.