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Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby meyers66 » 25 Apr 2010, 22:02

Hi,
I'm an American expat looking for information on permaculture in Taiwan. We are planning our land in Hsinchu County and could use some examples, ideas, and contacts. Here are some specific issues and topics I'm thinking of:
1. farming on old rice fields, will drainage be a problem?
2. rice pesticides in water.
3. plant communities or guilds
4. food forest
5. aquaponics/aquaculture

Currently reading "Gaia's Garden". Read "Intro to Permaculture" by Mollison and others. BTW my wife is Taiwanese.
TIA
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby Purehydro » 26 Apr 2010, 00:19

1. Shouldn't be a problem as Hsinchu has occasional water shortages
2. Have the local Council of Agriculture test it for you, they do it for free.
3. Not sure as most of what I have seen has been one crop per field and no companion planting. They do like to use ducks as pest control till the grain starts coming in.
4. Don't know
5. I've never seen it. I'd imagine that it would be hard as water is scarce lending to the pumping of groundwater which leads to the land subsiding.

I'd do a search on what Hsinchu County actually grows. I can't think of much as the water is needed for the industrial park. Taiwan's COA is on a crusade to grow organically. They offer free courses in Chinese. I'd suggest you look into mushrooms too as they are great sellers in Taiwan and Hsinchu County has a lot of forest.
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby meyers66 » 02 May 2010, 21:33

Thanks for the tips and ideas.
We have water access from rice fields and a relative with a spring nearby who is willing to share with us.
I see mushroom plots on my bike rides in the hills around 118 and 30-1. Cheers.
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby Purehydro » 02 May 2010, 23:57

I think for what you want mushrooms would be a nicer fix. I would buy Paul Stamets's 2 books on the subject and I believe he had to drop the magic mushroom emphasis that was basically what all his earlier versions were about.

www.agaric.com.tw can sell you the spawn to start, then you would need a glovebox or flowhood, pressure cooker, agar, and some petri dishes and you're set. Bring your own HEPA filter for a flowhood and I would suggest these guys: http://www.filtera-b2b.com/businessfilters/hepa.htm#99.99wood

The mushroom substrate can then be reused for compost. The large mushroom growing farm near me gives their spent substrate away to a fertilizer company. I was kind of shocked that they didn't reuse it for oyster mushrooms. Either they don't know or it's not financially viable.

This is probably the company I will be selling to: http://www.tw-mushroom.com.tw/index.php
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby sunnyarky » 26 Aug 2011, 23:43

You may visit http://twaquaponics.blogspot.com to ask more info.
They do a lot of sucessful stories at Taiwan Aquaponics.
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby dyllos » 24 May 2012, 21:53

Hi there meyers66

How is the permaculture farm going? Interested to hear. Have you got a blog or website or something?

Cheers
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby meyers66 » 28 Dec 2014, 19:11

Hello,
Thanks for asking but it isn't. We are trying to save up enough money to build a house on the land. Then we plan to grow veggies. Currently we lease the land to a rice farmer. Between the Government program and the farmer we earn a little money off the land. And since we've been idle the county has built ditches around the land which would have cost us millions in NT. So I guess waiting has been a good move in the end. But I want to get out of Plngchen City. I'm sick of the road rage gangsters.
Are you growing veggies?
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby meyers66 » 03 Jan 2016, 13:22

Our building date is this month so I thought I would refresh this thread with a post.
I'm still interested in permaculture in Hsinchu County/northern Taiwan.
So far I've got the ideas above about mushrooms and contacting the Council of Agriculture to test for pesticides.
My ideal would have a permaculture design course use our land to do a course. 2 birds with 1 stone.
I'm reading sites like this: https://www.permaculturevisions.com/com ... t-compost/
Any suggestions? TIA
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby headhonchoII » 03 Jan 2016, 14:18

I looked up pingchen because I never heard of it.
It's a close run thing with xinzhu for most messed up spellings of a town in Taiwan.

Depending on how you feel on the day if could be Pingchen, Pinzhen, Pingjen, Pingjhen..lots of juicy choices out there.

Like xinzhu city itself this could be the most remarkable fact about the town. Providing endless chortles and hours of rambunctious conversation.
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Re: Permaculture and aquaponics in Northern Taiwan

Postby meyers66 » 03 Jan 2016, 15:18

Yeah I've unfortunately lived here far too long. I need to go. ~
Your comments are spot on. In my time here Zhongli has changed spelling 3 times. Pingzhen's spelling has changed twice and has gone from a city to a district. It borders Zhongli so all the residents get confused too. (At least I do and I consider myself a resident.) I doubt Google Maps can keep up. ~
Then just outside of the ring road, there are 2 gonglu 113's that run parallel to one another by 1 or 2 km. Same Chinese name as far as I can tell.
Then the new "Aerotropolis City" in Dayuan, where all the county capital is going, is set up to serve Taoyuan City rather than the closer Zhongli. Each time I go out there I get lost because of the construction and lack of signage. Its a mess.
If you go there, start at the "Aerotropolis City" museum which is north of the man made lake. It is worth visiting because it gives you the overview of the place. Without it you are lost.
When I was there there were bus loads of Mainlanders. It showed me who Taiwan is trying to please with all this building. If you want to see what a China ghost city is like, without going to one, check out the "Aerotropolis City" complete with the L'Amigo Baseball Stadium! George Carlin would have a field day here. Hilarious really.
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