Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby headhonchoII » 30 Jan 2012, 17:14

Whole Lotta Lotta wrote:
headhonchoII wrote:Wll is playing it right, it's about negotiation and setting expectations at the start. He should also remember he got away with not paying 36000 NTD minimum fine for DUI on a scooter.

I never heard there is a minimum fine of 36,000 NTD for a DUI on a scooter. I have heard that there is a maximum fine of 150,000 NT. I was told that my payment to the girl would probably count as my fine and that I will probably get community service.


I got the information from here. Now it may be possible to be a lower minimum but I have heard the 30,000 NTD figure bandied about before. The maximum does indeed seem to be 150,000 NTD.

http://www.thewildeast.net/news/2012/01 ... l-lessons/
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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby Whole Lotta Lotta » 30 Jan 2012, 20:56

headhonchoII wrote:
Whole Lotta Lotta wrote:
headhonchoII wrote:Wll is playing it right, it's about negotiation and setting expectations at the start. He should also remember he got away with not paying 36000 NTD minimum fine for DUI on a scooter.

I never heard there is a minimum fine of 36,000 NTD for a DUI on a scooter. I have heard that there is a maximum fine of 150,000 NT. I was told that my payment to the girl would probably count as my fine and that I will probably get community service.


I got the information from here. Now it may be possible to be a lower minimum but I have heard the 30,000 NTD figure bandied about before. The maximum does indeed seem to be 150,000 NTD.

http://www.thewildeast.net/news/2012/01 ... l-lessons/

Does anybody know the sentencing guidelines regarding community service and whether more community service hours may mean a reduced fine :ponder: ?
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Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby headhonchoII » 30 Jan 2012, 23:19

He's negotiating , you start from a low base. From a legal and tactical standpoint this is the correct approach.

If you offer 100,000 NTD they will want 200,000 NTD. this is the way compensation cases work, especially here.

Hey Taiwan is great though it has the death penalty which has succeeded probably numerous times in executing INNOCENT people.

WLL should grow up and stop whining about everything though, go legal man. What age are you..50 going on 15?
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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby tomthorne » 30 Jan 2012, 23:28

headhonchoII wrote:He's negotiating , you start from a low base. From a legal and tactical standpoint this is the correct approach.

If you offer 100,000 NTD they will want 200,000 NTD. this is the way compensation cases work, especially here.

Hey Taiwan is great though it has the death penalty which has succeeded probably numerous times in executing INNOCENT people.

WLL should grow up and stop whining about everything though, go legal man. What age are you..50 going on 15?


I'm 41. I agree that he's just playing the system, which is all anyone can do in any legal system. If I did something bang out of order I'm sure I'd try similar tactics.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby Whole Lotta Lotta » 30 Jan 2012, 23:37

Oh, and BTW there is community service here. I have been told this by people who have done it as well as the court.
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Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby headhonchoII » 30 Jan 2012, 23:47

Yes but in this case it seems the DUI was incidental to the injury. If the DUI was obviously the cause of the injury then 6000 NTD would not help the defendants case.
Basically civil cases equal dollar signs to a lot of folks in Taiwan these days, just like the west, or worse as accusers don't pay defendants costs here.

It's strange WLL hasn't been fined for DUI and for running the red light and driving without license. I think that could add up to 60,000-80,000 NTD fine.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby cyborg_ninja » 31 Jan 2012, 00:44

headhonchoII wrote:Yes but in this case it seems the DUI was incidental to the injury. If the DUI was obviously the cause of the injury then 6000 NTD would not help the defendants case.
Basically civil cases equal dollar signs to a lot of folks in Taiwan these days, just like the west, or worse as accusers don't pay defendants costs here.

It's strange WLL hasn't been fined for DUI and for running the red light and driving without license. I think that could add up to 60,000-80,000 NTD fine.


I find theres more to the story than what he's posting. Drunk driving alone is a serious offense and he could face possible jail time depending on the injury. WLL will most likely have a criminal record in this case unless he's able to settle out of court. I think he just hasn't received the fines yet because they're just processing everything with the police.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby Tempo Gain » 31 Jan 2012, 01:24

If you have an opinion to offer, please leave any personal attacks out of it, thanks.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby Whole Lotta Lotta » 31 Jan 2012, 16:42

The personal injury case has been settled out of court. I will not go to jail. I am waiting for my sentencing for the DUI. They are handled as two separate cases here. Personally, I have always thought from the beginning that I might not have drunken anything and this minor accident might still have happened.
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Re: Do the Taiwanese really do things this way in their legal system?

Postby cyborg_ninja » 31 Jan 2012, 22:16

Whole Lotta Lotta wrote:The personal injury case has been settled out of court. I will not go to jail. I am waiting for my sentencing for the DUI. They are handled as two separate cases here. Personally, I have always thought from the beginning that I might not have drunken anything and this minor accident might still have happened.


Regardless, driving without a license and DUI. If you settled it out of court, bring the out of court settlement statement to the DUI court so they won't add additional sentencing.
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