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So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby Mucha Man » 20 Feb 2012, 03:12

Seems that way. Heimoshu recently launched into this assault on me:

Sure MM apologized but his apology is as full of shit as him and FM.. Do you think that MM's apology should stand. I think it is typical bigoted BS like that that gets to me....Now some pompous prick on a forum wants to score some points pointing that out and then offer a halfhearted apology. Fuck off.

"Fuck you and you dumbass opinions about South Africans and people who claim to be Taiwanese".


And Bizmark, the mod, leaves it sit and apparently even tags it with a like (he eventually cut the original post but still has left the content on his quote and has even defended the post).

Super80 and I both complain and we get this:

Well, he insulted the man's country, and his countrymen directly, and him indirectly. What the hell do you expect? Saffas can get very defensive about these things. To be fair, I would have to suspend the both of them. But I'm not keen on that sort of thing. I'm sure MM can defend himself well enough. He's good with words. Better than me, better than most.
He said, "Fuck you and you dumbass opinions about South Africans and people who claim to be Taiwanese". Where I come from originally, that isn't considered a personal insult. Them're just fighting words.

Don't insult a man's country, his countrymen et al, and you won't get a "fuck you and your opinions" in return, yeah? We're all grown ups here. We realise the result of our words.


First off I said nothing that the Saffies don't say all the time on this site, or that they haven't been telling me for 15 years: they don't go back because they have nothing to go back to.

I meant no insult by that and apologized if it came out the wrong way. That should have been it but Biz decides he didn't like it and would just sit back and do nothing when HMS went far beyond what the rules allow.

I'm been banned for saying "fuck off with the excuses" to a poster who was bragging about breaking the law. How do the remarks made above not result in even a warning?

The uneven moderation of this site is really pushing this site further towards self-immolation. Could we perhaps not keep lighting more fires?
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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby ChewDawg » 20 Feb 2012, 03:51

I was practically called a Nazi in the Che thread in the Teaching in English Forum. I'm glad the moderator left it in (kudos to Tempo Gain) because it just shows the complete stupidity of the poster in this instance (I usually have no problems with his posts).That's what I love about free speech and allowing the free flow of information. In the end, it hurts the person crossing the line as it displays his/her stupidity to everyone. That's better than splitting something, temping it or removing it IMHO.
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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby jimipresley » 20 Feb 2012, 04:11

Jesus. What is it with you guys? Nobody's perfect. It's easy to sit in the stands and scream and shout.

Crying about bismarck? That guy's a fucking stalwart. He's been giving selflessly of his time for years now to make this site a better place. Shame on you.

Of course you can do a better job. Here: send Goose Egg a message applying for a moderator position. memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=352

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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby tommy525 » 20 Feb 2012, 04:16

and to think i got sent off for two weeks once for puttin on a youtube clip bout a japanese girl with big boobies wearing her bikini and another time for another japanese girl youtube clip (also with big booties)...the shame. :lol:
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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby TainanCowboy » 20 Feb 2012, 06:39

As one who was very recently also told to "fuck off", I can attest to it not even penetrating the epidermis.

GTFU and deal with it..... :lol:
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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby baberenglish » 20 Feb 2012, 09:09

I was told to fuck off yesterday while playing hockey. I crosschecked a guy in the kidneys and he had the nerve to get angry. How rude. He then slashed me on my calf. This morning my leg is black and blue. Can I complain to a mod about it? Can a mod suspend him from playing hockey for two weeks?
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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby Chris » 20 Feb 2012, 12:55

I see it as inconsistent modding. When Person A is suddenly and without warning suspended for telling a troll who richly deserves it to "f off", while Person B is left untouched after telling a legitimate poster the same thing, I see that as a problem.
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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby Chris » 20 Feb 2012, 13:10

Muzha Man wrote:
Don't insult a man's country, his countrymen et al, and you won't get a "fuck you and your opinions" in return, yeah? We're all grown ups here. We realise the result of our words.


First off I said nothing that the Saffies don't say all the time on this site, or that they haven't been telling me for 15 years: they don't go back because they have nothing to go back to.

I must say, it reminds me of when my ex-gf would complain about what an asshole her father was (and he was). But when I dared to mention to her that I thought he was an asshole, I got an earful from her.

People often criticize things that are their own, but don't take kindly to outsiders leveling the same criticisms. Odd human phenomenon, but there you have it.
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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby Adflob Sales » 20 Feb 2012, 13:12

Chris wrote:I see it as inconsistent modding. When Person A is suddenly and without warning suspended for telling a troll who richly deserves it to "f off", while Person B is left untouched after telling a legitimate poster the same thing, I see that as a problem.


I see it as evolving moderation. This issue is being discussed behind the curtain. BUT< mods have lives and I think it's disappointing that some people demand instant response to their feedback. Any thoughts of partisanship motivated moderating are absolutely mistaken. Observing these guys at work over the last few months makes me proud to represent them and most of you in the marketplace. Hell, I am proud to rep all of you, and I mean ALL of you. Everyone is free to contribute their thoughts and debate positions within what appears to be pretty clear guidelines. Step outside these lines and then the mods have to make decisions. I believe each mod appreciates feedback no end, if presented in a constructive manner. Use the report function, use the ignore function, use your scroll wheel, do whatever you need to to contribute positively to whatever discussion you wish to partake of. Don't give the mods anything to do and we'll see a much more fruitful discourse take place.

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Re: So "Fuck you" is now okay in certain forums?

Postby Tempo Gain » 20 Feb 2012, 13:14

ChewDawg wrote:I was practically called a Nazi in the Che thread in the Teaching in English Forum. I'm glad the moderator left it in (kudos to Tempo Gain) because it just shows the complete stupidity of the poster in this instance (I usually have no problems with his posts).That's what I love about free speech and allowing the free flow of information. In the end, it hurts the person crossing the line as it displays his/her stupidity to everyone. That's better than splitting something, temping it or removing it IMHO.


Kudos aside, thanks, I hadn't noticed the thread was in the English forum :oops: I've now split, temped and removed various parts of it :)
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