ironlady wrote:TwoTongues wrote: And thanks for moving Michelle Zen's picture to temp, I would disagree that it's totally OT, as it was meant to demonstrate a point in a fun way, but certainly if some are offended then whatever.
Gosh, I was not aware that Michelle Zen had any opinions about whether the use of Pinyin with beginning students of Chinese led to foreign accent. Or that the looks of the teacher in question had anything to do with the use of Pinyin.
No but it has bearing on whether he should keep his tutor or not, which was asked on-topic - and it proved true (tangentially)!!! Just one "man's" way of expressing it.
ironlady wrote:But why are men any different? Do you not see negative comments about men floating around? Who the hell cares if there are bathroom jokes and Farrelly Brothers humor in the forums? This is a country where the average male expat has significantly more opportunities for relationships with local females than do average female expats, yet we can not always discuss them openly and in the way we like to without getting complaints of sexism and juvenility (Ok I made up the word).
You can discuss whatever you like, including "juvenile" topics, sex, etc. The objection the ladies have is that when a woman tries to discuss a topic in the open forums, the guys pile on with the puerile jokes that are unrelated to the question. We don't care if you discuss all the details of your latest conquest. But it would be nice (but seemingly impossible, without a separate forum) for a woman to be able to raise a question and get an answer, rather than a bunch of unrelated BS, in a handful of cases. And these are the topics that end up in the women's forum, and are handled quite differently to the way they would have ended up being handled "in the open".
Your implication is that women don't go OT (though I admit I've seen fewer of that than men doing so, though that might be because there seem to be quite a bit more men than women on here). And from my admittedly short experience here, it's moderators who go OT about as much as the rest of us! Is it really so hard to filter out the weeds?
But anyway I'm agreeing with you, but I think fair is fair, and in return we should have a complimentary (as in matching, not as in free) men's forum.
ironlady wrote:So maybe Men should have a forum only for men in which we can discuss those topics freely. As you said earlier, if requested, men should have a men's only forum, as should gays and other sexual orientations and cultural groups who have a "different way of discussing things".
I hereby cast my vote for a men-only forum in which we are free to be as puerile as we want without getting temp'd or banned. OK so no porn or explicit nudity, and no threats of violence or ignorant boxcutter jokes, but the rest is a free for all.
Doesn't bother me if the men want their own forum, although it has been previously pointed out on many occasions that they already do, in essence. It's called Forumosa, given the preponderance of male posters. But if y'all want to lobby for The Puerile Forum and get a qualified gatekeeper to judge if prospective members are childish enough -- be my guest!
As a wise man once said "So let it be written, so let it be done!"