Teaching difference adv/adj

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Re: Teaching difference adv/adj

Postby fh2000 » 04 Jul 2012, 05:28

This is how I learned it at high school in Taipei, and seemed to work for me for all these years.

Adjectives are to modify nouns.
Ex: Beautiful trees
Adverbs are to modify verbs (thus Ad-verbs). Many adverbs end with 'ly'
Ex: Run beautifully
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Re: Teaching difference adv/adj

Postby GuyInTaiwan » 04 Jul 2012, 08:02

Homey wrote:It's working out great here in Taiwan. Thanks for asking.

It's exactly what these students need. It's painfully obvious that the old "Teacher speaks ---> Students listen" model isn't working. It's mind boggling how so many students can spend years "learning" English, yet very very few can actually speak the language. The old model simply doesn't work. The hilarious Taiwan method where you crank up the volume using a microphone and speakers doesn't make any difference. No matter how loud, the students just tune it out. There is a reason why Taiwan lags behind other countries in overall English ability and it has nothing to do with not getting enough instruction. A large percentage of Taiwanese that can't speak English have spent many years "learning" it.

Language needs to be practiced. Students need to be challenged to put the pieces together in many different ways. Burn in those neural pathways. This is most effectively done through thinking, speaking, and using the language.


You've completely managed to miss the entire point of what I've been writing about. You're fighting a strawman because I'm not talking about the old way. I actually don't disagree with you that the old way is a complete nonsense. Yet the "teacher speaks, students listen" model you're talking about isn't input anyway. It's a linguistics lesson about English, delivered virtually entirely in Chinese. The amount of English input is virtually zero. That's not what I'm talking about though.

Language does not need to be practised. That's not how any native speaker learns to speak his first language, and it's not how people effectively learn subsequent languages. Output is the consequence of language acquisition, not the cause of it. You didn't answer any of my questions on these matters, and you also didn't address my point about the affective filter.
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Re: Teaching difference adv/adj

Postby Puppet » 04 Jul 2012, 13:06

fh2000 wrote:This is how I learned it at high school in Taipei, and seemed to work for me for all these years.

Adjectives are to modify nouns.
Ex: Beautiful trees
Adverbs are to modify verbs (thus Ad-verbs). Many adverbs end with 'ly'
Ex: Run beautifully


To add to that, adverbs also modify adjectives. I don't think it's a problem of the person knowing the information as much as using it correctly.
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Re: Teaching difference adv/adj

Postby Battery9 » 04 Jul 2012, 13:13

The noun is adjective. The book is blue.
The noun verb/s adverb. :) The book runs quickly. hahahah
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Re: Teaching difference adv/adj

Postby fh2000 » 04 Jul 2012, 14:03

Battery9 wrote:The noun is adjective. The book is blue.
The noun verb/s adverb. :) The book runs quickly. hahahah


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