Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

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Re: Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

Postby bigduke6 » 12 Apr 2012, 07:54

headhonchoII wrote:You don't need to brush up on your English to teach English in Taiwan. You just need to turn up, have a positive attitude and make an effort. That's about it.


Correct. The post about your spelling and grammar is highly patronizing . :raspberry:

Most posters here will give you practical advice. Everyone makes grammar and spelling mistakes, even native speakers. Just ignore the rest.



I would think it would be difficult for you in KHH. Firstly, the job market is not great at the moment. Secondly, most school owners cannot believe someone that looks Chinese, can be a native speaker, and neither do most parents.

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Re: Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

Postby PigBloodCake » 12 Apr 2012, 22:21

foolsmate wrote:
PigBloodCake wrote:What school did you graduate from (it'll be relevant if you answer this Q)?


UC Irvine


Ah, you're in my territory (I used to live there).

Since you said you're an ABC, I'm assuming that your pronunciation of the English language can be considered to be North American accent. In this case, you'll do fine here as an English teacher at a buxiban. Your only issue would be to find a buxiban which doesn't discriminate against ABCs (you can search this website on this topic).

creztor wrote:Why bother teaching here for a year? It's just going to either be a year of fucking around with a sticky ball and teaching kids how to jump and sing ABC at the same time, or it will turn into ten years and then you'll be asking yourself the same question of what you should do next. Either go back home and get serious about your career, or look at doing something permanent in Taiwan, even if that means becoming a male stripper. I bet I sound jaded


Well, teaching in Taiwan seemed like a good experience to discover. After spending the last 2 months in Taiwan talking, playing, and teaching my cousin's kids it made me think that might turn out to be a good thing for me. Also having friends who are currently teaching English in Korea has inspired me to do the same.


Don't take teaching English (especially at a buxiban) seriously or else you'll end up regretting this decision. Don't do it just for the money either or you'll be hating yourself for stooping so low into accepting this type of job just to chase some Kaohsiung skirts or eating your life away if you happened to like 'wan food.

I've been reading forums where some people have been having a hard time deciding on either to teach or get a job, and a poster said something about do what you want, so that you won't regret it later. It really made me wonder if I would regret not going in the future. I also read that it would look good on a resume.


It'll only look good on your resume if you plan on having an Educational career....or else it's worthless on your CV.

What kind of permanent thing can I do in Taiwan without a citizenship?


Are you a **true** Chinese (i.e. Red one)? If so, never mind....or else you can apply for a citizenship if one or both of your parents have had Taiwan citizenship.

Sorry can't become a male stripper. I don't qualify. :)


A fat a$$, eh :D

I understand what kaikai34 is saying about my English writing skills, and I am considering of brushing up on it. Would there be a difference between teaching kindergarden kids and teaching at a buxiban?


Kindies will drive you crazy....buxiban will also drive you crazy....kindy buxiban and you're looking at doing 420 or be AA eligible for the rest of your life.

I've also read a lot of forums saying that a lot of the English teachers in Taiwan has pretty bad English as well, but they're still able to become teachers.


Yes, a French woman was teaching English at my ex-buxiban workplace with heavy French accent...I think she still works there. So you'll never know what you'll meet at these places.

Thanks adikarmika for the comments. Would 2 years really be that bad? I'd definitely be brushing up on my Chinese and pick up Taiwanese while I'm there.


If 2 years is your maximum commitment, I'd say go for it. But keep in mind though that these 2 years of experience might be worth sh*t back in the States.

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Re: Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

Postby LOHASCABIN » 18 Apr 2012, 14:12

If you are not sure what you are interested, how are you going to choose for further study? Be brave and get a job, volunteer or paid job, or go traveling, and find out what you are enthusiastic, then you will know what to do next. Good luck!!
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Re: Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

Postby foolsmate » 21 Apr 2012, 02:27

PigBloodCake wrote:What kind of permanent thing can I do in Taiwan without a citizenship?

Are you a **true** Chinese (i.e. Red one)? If so, never mind....or else you can apply for a citizenship if one or both of your parents have had Taiwan citizenship.

Kindies will drive you crazy....buxiban will also drive you crazy....kindy buxiban and you're looking at doing 420 or be AA eligible for the rest of your life.


Both my parents still have their Taiwan citizenship, and I have a green passport too, but they said that I can only stay there for 3 months max. I don't know how it goes.
What do you mean by "and you're looking at doing 420 or be AA eligible for the rest of your life."?

Also, I forgot to mention that I'm a girl. Will that also hinder me from getting a teaching job in Taiwan?

LOHASCABIN wrote:If you are not sure what you are interested, how are you going to choose for further study? Be brave and get a job, volunteer or paid job, or go traveling, and find out what you are enthusiastic, then you will know what to do next. Good luck!!


Well, I know which field I want to go into(Health Care), but haven't decided on a position. I would think that teaching English in Taiwan would fulfill traveling, job, and finding out what I would like to do as a career. Maybe if I teach in Taiwan, I'll end up wanting to be a teacher instead. hahahha
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Re: Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

Postby PigBloodCake » 21 Apr 2012, 03:18

foolsmate wrote:Both my parents still have their Taiwan citizenship, and I have a green passport too, but they said that I can only stay there for 3 months max. I don't know how it goes.


Nah, you're a tw citizen. Just enter with that green passport and you can stay as long as you want although you might need to do household registration if you wanna work (i.e. you need a National ID to work). Furthermore, since you're a girl, there's no conscription issue for you.

What do you mean by "and you're looking at doing 420 or be AA eligible for the rest of your life."?


I guess you don't Google first and ask questions later, do you? 420=Cannibus. AA=Alcohol Anonymous. However, I've heard from a few anecdotes that women tend to do better in kindy buxiban than men.

Also, I forgot to mention that I'm a girl. Will that also hinder me from getting a teaching job in Taiwan?


Nope, not at all.
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Re: Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

Postby PigBloodCake » 21 Apr 2012, 03:54

foolsmate wrote:My parents are Taiwan natives, but I am born in the US., and I have a Taiwan passport as well.


Well duh...totally forgot about this quote from the OP.

Your only issue now which is a bit complicated (since you were born in US) is to do the household registration with 戶政事務所. What you need to do is to ask your parents to see if they still have the 戶籍謄本 which should have your Chinese name on it (or else how the hell did you get your tw passport anyway?).

What 戶籍謄本 contains is a set of names that are registered within a household (usually the head of household, the father, followed by the mother and the dependents). Without it, it's pretty difficult for the folks working at 戶政事務所 to retrieve the older files containing your parents' past residential information. Without the residential information, you will not be able to establish residency (i.e. household registration) which will allow them to go ahead and process your National ID containing your registered address, parental info, and marital status with spouse name if married (how's that for a complete exposure to your personal info.....isn't Taiwan great or what :roll: ). Finally, get a personal Chinese name seal when you're here as you might need it for the household reg.

Good luck...and you really need your Chinese skills to apply for this (or get your relatives to help you out).
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Re: Teaching in Kaohsiung as an ABC?

Postby Abacus » 21 Apr 2012, 12:52

As an ABC you should expect to get the worst teaching jobs in the market. You will probably get paid closer to the Taiwanese teachers than the native speakers and you'll be given more menial tasks as well. If you are only here for a year you'll be lucky to save any money at all considering all of the moving expenses and the costs during your job hunt.

for most employers teaching ESL in Asia will not be a positive on your resume although improving your Chinese could be a benefit.

FWIW - my English is not great since I'm better with numbers but your English doesn't need to be great to teach ESL unless you're teaching a lot of year 5-8 (jr high and sr high students) imo.
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