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Have to ask: why do people come to Taiwan to be teachers?

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Have to ask: why do people come to Taiwan to be teachers?

Postby Isha » 30 Apr 2012, 11:34

Hi,

I am curious, why do, after having professional education from excellent Universities, people come to Taiwan for being teachers? What it is that attracts so much about this place that these young grads leave their whole expertise/education behind to teach here?

I would like to clear that I am not trying to offend the teachers or telling that the profession is bad. I am just curious about the career choice they make, which I find (v.) odd.

Thanks.
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Re: Have to ask!

Postby milkalex » 30 Apr 2012, 11:49

maybe they don't want to live at home with their parents and work in 3 different supermarkets per day? :popcorn:
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Re: Have to ask!

Postby tomthorne » 30 Apr 2012, 12:55

Isha wrote:Hi,

I am curious, why do, after having professional education from excellent Universities, people come to Taiwan for being teachers? What it is that attracts so much about this place that these young grads leave their whole expertise/education behind to teach here?

I would like to clear that I am not trying to offend the teachers or telling that the profession is bad. I am just curious about the career choice they make, which I find (v.) odd.

Thanks.


Why do you find it (v.) odd? If you can tell me that then I can answer your question more easily. What do you do, how much do you earn, and why do you think it's better than teaching?
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Re: Have to ask!

Postby Isha » 30 Apr 2012, 15:40

tomthorne wrote:Why do you find it (v.) odd? If you can tell me that then I can answer your question more easily.


In my experience earning professional degrees is a great deal of hard work and one do it because they have an aim or something they want to achieve or at least get a good position in related field. That's where my question comes in.
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Re: Have to ask!

Postby urodacus » 30 Apr 2012, 16:15

There are not many jobs for people with degrees in linguistics, or geography, or art history, or Middle ages French literature.
The prizes are a bottle of f*!@#$% SCOTCH and a box of cheap f!@#$#$ CIGARS!

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Re: Have to ask!

Postby NonTocareLeTete » 30 Apr 2012, 16:37

I work 11 hours a week, if you can call it 'work' because my 'job' is to converse with interesting and educated people. The rest of the time I frolic on the beach and pursue my own goals. Tell me another country where I can do that and I'll be on the next plane.
If I was back in America I'd be working 40 hours a week and living in suburbia, and not having the experience of living in a different culture or learning Chinese.
My major (Psychology) and minor (Linguistics) would require a higher degree if I wanted to get a job in that field. Right now, a grad degree doesn't seem like a good investment to me- good jobs teaching and researching at a university are hard to come by, and I'm not even sure if that's the career path I want to pursue forever, plus if I went to grad school I'd probably end up saddled with loans so I would have to get a serious career right away.

I also find that we're taught to pursue slightly different goals in western countries. Here, most of what I hear is "I want a good, stable job (preferably government.)" In America it's "I want a job that fills me with passion, where I'm excited to get out of bed in the morning." I think the view here is more realistic and less 'entitled.' But I do think there's more to life than a steady paycheck.
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Re: Have to ask!

Postby bigduke6 » 30 Apr 2012, 17:24

There are a million different answers to your question.

I had a well paying, senior position back home, in a large company, with all the perks. However, it played havoc with my family life and personal life.

I was overseas for 2 weeks every month, going to multiple countries, staying in great hotels. All my mates used to tell me what a great job I had, especially during the economic downturn. I am highly specialized and experienced in my field. Even with the huge layoffs companies were going through, I was bulletproof.
People thought I was insane to resign and come to Taiwan with my wife and teach English (I still dabble a bit in my industry).

For me it was a lifestyle choice. I was constantly tired and stressed out. I used to suck down pills to make me sleep, and then suck down a few more to wake me up.
I had no personal life, or time to do the things I enjoy as I was basically working seven days a week. On the weekends and evenings the Blackberry did not stop beeping, and I was expected to answer due to my position. It was f*%ked.

Now, I work 2 hours in the AM, come home have lunch, walk the dogs, do another 2 hours in the afternoon, come home and chill for a few hours, and then go do a few hours work in the evening.
I have weekends free, can spend time with my wife, do my outdoor hobbies on the weekend, chill at home in front of the TV at night, read books. Stress level is down to zero now.

Sure, I make a fraction of what I did at home, but to me it is worth it.

Well, thats my reason. I am sure others have plenty different ones.
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Re: Have to ask!

Postby TheGingerMan » 30 Apr 2012, 21:02

urodacus wrote:There are not many jobs for people with degrees in linguistics, or geography, or art history, or Middle ages French literature.

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Re: Have to ask: why do people come to Taiwan to be teachers?

Postby PapaAzucar » 01 May 2012, 13:21

In case you have not noticed, it is mostly white males that come to Taiwan to teach English.
My guess is that they have "yellow fever". :roflmao:
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Re: Have to ask!

Postby sandman » 01 May 2012, 13:32

Isha wrote:
tomthorne wrote:Why do you find it (v.) odd? If you can tell me that then I can answer your question more easily.


In my experience earning professional degrees is a great deal of hard work and one do it because they have an aim or something they want to achieve or at least get a good position in related field. That's where my question comes in.

So exactly WHAT is your area of expertise? And why are you here in Taiwan making monkey wages (less than NT$200k per month is monkey wages in my book, and TRUST me, if you put Taiwan on your resume, no matter WHICH job you're in, you're getting a "buggered off to the sun when he could have been contributing to society" note) when you could be in wherever else making MUCH better coin? Me, I came for a laugh. Here I am, 25 years on, STILL having a laugh and making NICE dosh, house, summer house, Holidays in the sun, cars, bikes, the lot. SaWEEEET!
Sure, my mates ask me back home what the hell I'm doing out there in the third world. I just buy them a pint (they can't afford more than two, generally) and say: "Livin' large, my friend. Livin' LARGE!")
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