29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby Teddoman » 12 May 2012, 21:43

ironlady wrote:The OP might be a top candidate to get a job teaching English at a medical school, but not for teaching medicine. I doubt anyone in the US would hire someone fresh out of residency to be a professor of medicine, and Taiwan would be the same -- plus the OP doesn't speak Chinese (I am assuming) which is another downside for a lecture-based position. And believe me (been there done that) -- teaching English at a medical school has very little to do with medicine and everything to do with remedial English, just like everywhere else.

Medical teaching positions are not like regular professorships. Medicine professors are just regular doctors who teach a class or two as part of their duties. The only reason they're professors is they're employed at a teaching hospital. Though teaching hospitals hire people who have research backgrounds and career advancement is linked to research.

So in the US, assistant professors or lecturers actually can just be residents fresh out of residency. But anyone who has finished residency is a full doctor. In fact, I think they are full doctors upon completion of med school.
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby Dr. McCoy » 12 May 2012, 21:53

I wonder what this weird thing on my arm is.
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby ironlady » 12 May 2012, 23:32

Teddoman wrote:
ironlady wrote:The OP might be a top candidate to get a job teaching English at a medical school, but not for teaching medicine. I doubt anyone in the US would hire someone fresh out of residency to be a professor of medicine, and Taiwan would be the same -- plus the OP doesn't speak Chinese (I am assuming) which is another downside for a lecture-based position. And believe me (been there done that) -- teaching English at a medical school has very little to do with medicine and everything to do with remedial English, just like everywhere else.

Medical teaching positions are not like regular professorships. Medicine professors are just regular doctors who teach a class or two as part of their duties. The only reason they're professors is they're employed at a teaching hospital. Though teaching hospitals hire people who have research backgrounds and career advancement is linked to research.

So in the US, assistant professors or lecturers actually can just be residents fresh out of residency. But anyone who has finished residency is a full doctor. In fact, I think they are full doctors upon completion of med school.


Sure, but just wondering why, in a country full of Ph.Ds and foreign-educated professionals and doctors out of Tai-Da, a medical school would hire a foreigner who can't speak the local language and is a new graduate. I would guess the competition would be overwhelming for such a person. There is unlikely to be much value placed on the "native English speaker" part of his resume (unless they hope to get a free editor for the institution, of course...)
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby Charlie Phillips » 12 May 2012, 23:42

Dr. McCoy wrote:I wonder what this weird thing on my arm is.


According to a peer-reviewed journal I read, you should chew it off before it spreads.
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby darienpeak » 13 May 2012, 00:37

jastevenson wrote:I am not looking for a patient care type of job. However, I hope to find something that will allow me to use my medical education more than a job teaching English to elementary school kids.


Hi jastevenson, good luck with your plans. What is your specialty? If you had training in dermatology, pathology or radiology, a telemedicine job covering overnight duties in the USA would be helpful to your colleagues back home. If you are a radiologist, send me a PM.

Perhaps your initial time in Taiwan would be best spent learning Mandarin, as opposed to working, presuming that you are not yet fluent. If you are already fluent, you could attempt the Taiwanese board exams so long as you meet their eligibility requirements. If you are badly in debt, do a few locum tenens positions in the USA before you come.

Taiwanese medical trainees may be interested in sitting for the American licensing exams, but likely have had few opportunities to learn about the them from someone who has been through the process. You could introduce yourself to your Taiwanese colleagues by preparing some mock exams for their medical students and residents and helping them with board preparation. Even practice for the USMLE would probably be welcomed.
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby Dr. McCoy » 13 May 2012, 12:03

Charlie Phillips wrote:
Dr. McCoy wrote:I wonder what this weird thing on my arm is.


According to a peer-reviewed journal I read, you should chew it off before it spreads.

It will be nice to have some more doctors around. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby steelersman » 13 May 2012, 12:31

jastevenson wrote:Hi!

I'm a board-certified American physician recently out of training.

I enjoy medicine, but after 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 4 years of residency (working for 80-100 hours per week), I am looking for both a change of pace and a change of scenery.

I will be moving to Taiwan in July.

Any tips on a finding a part-time (10-20 hours/week) teaching or non-teaching job in Taiwan?

I am not looking for a patient care type of job. However, I hope to find something that will allow me to use my medical education more than a job teaching English to elementary school kids.

Thank you in advance!



Unless you are applying for a job to teach medical English, I would not mention to perspective employers that you are a board-certified American physician or you will never get a job.
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby steelersman » 13 May 2012, 12:37

jastevenson wrote:Hi!

I'm a board-certified American physician recently out of training.

I enjoy medicine, but after 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and 4 years of residency (working for 80-100 hours per week), I am looking for both a change of pace and a change of scenery.

I will be moving to Taiwan in July.

Any tips on a finding a part-time (10-20 hours/week) teaching or non-teaching job in Taiwan?

I am not looking for a patient care type of job. However, I hope to find something that will allow me to use my medical education more than a job teaching English to elementary school kids.

Thank you in advance!



Maybe you should applying for a job as an editor with a company. However then you would be required to work a full 40 hours a week for 55,000NT a month.
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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby Ducked » 13 May 2012, 23:54

steelersman wrote:
Unless you are applying for a job to teach medical English, I would not mention to perspective employers that you are a board-certified American physician or you will never get a job.


Dunno. If they're perspective employers, theres some prospect that they'd want a medical perspective.

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Re: 29 y/o doctor moving to TW. Medical education jobs? Other ideas?

Postby ChewDawg » 14 May 2012, 00:46

I hope I don't come across as rude when I say this but "wake the hell up!" You have the gift to save lives and to heal. People have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in your medical education.

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