Screw the is/are verbiage.

Moderator: Tempo Gain



superking wrote:I would say, There is a 1000 dollars on the table. In that way I would be talking about the currency of dollars. However, I would say, There are 1000 dollar bills on the table, to talk about the individual things.
Is/Are is/are a very tricky thing to teach.



Tempo Gain wrote:I'm getting the feeling there are US/Commonwealth differences at work here, as isn't unusual with mass noun type issues. "There are a thousand dollars" sounds right to me.
Countable vs uncountable stops at sheep, chocolate and stuff in the house. Pre-int level people really don't need to fuss quite so much.
Tiger Mountaineer wrote::eh:
A thousand dollars is a SUM of money... and sums of money are singular. Therefore you should say "There is a thousand dollars on the table.", "There is fifty dollars in my wallet.", "A hundred dollars is all the money I have left.", etc. Ex Animo is right. If you say "There are a thousand dollars on the table." it's like saying "There are a thousand one-dollar bills on the table." There's my

Confuzius wrote:Tiger Mountaineer wrote::eh:
A thousand dollars is a SUM of money... and sums of money are singular. Therefore you should say "There is a thousand dollars on the table.", "There is fifty dollars in my wallet.", "A hundred dollars is all the money I have left.", etc. Ex Animo is right. If you say "There are a thousand dollars on the table." it's like saying "There are a thousand one-dollar bills on the table." There's my
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Rule 13
Use a singular verb with sums of money or periods of time.
Examples:
Ten dollars is a high price to pay.
Five years is the maximum sentence for that offense.
“Dollars” is an exceptional case—it’s singular when you’re talking about an amount of money (“ninety dollars is a big chunk of change”) but plural when you’re discussing a particular group of bills (“the dollars in my pocket are green”).
9.21 Words versus monetary symbols and numerals
Isolated references to amounts of money are spelled out for whole numbers of one hundred or less, in accordance with the general principle presented in 9.2. See also 9.3.
seventy-five cents = 75¢
fifteen dollars = $15
seventy-five pounds = £75
Whole amounts expressed numerically should include zeros and a decimal point only when they appear in the same context with fractional amounts (see also 9.19). Note the singular verb in the second example.
Children can ride for seventy-five cents.
The eighty-three dollars was quickly spent.
The instructor charged €125 per lesson.
Prices ranged from $0.95 up to $10.00.
For larger amounts, see 9.25
Usage
Q. Hello, CMOS Gurus—I cannot seem to locate the rule that proves (or disproves, I guess) the following to be correct: More than 28 million pounds of scrap is reclaimed every year. I thought that units of measurement or money took a singular verb, not plural (such as, three million dollars is a lot, or five miles is a long way). Are there other quantities that this applies to (such as years)? Or am I wrong entirely and should all three of my examples above take a plural verb? —A stumped copyeditor
A. For measures or money or any other quantities, when the items form a whole that isn’t meant to be divided, use a singular verb, as you have. When items are meant to be individual and countable, use a plural verb: Five hundred million Twinkies are produced each year. Since your scrap isn’t being reclaimed one pound at a time, “is” is the right choice.

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