Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

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Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby Confuzius » 31 May 2012, 01:06

Allo folks,

So my main employer has just asked me to do a 40 min taped demo with fake students for promotional and training purposes. Although its 40 minutes, the whole process will be 2.5 hrs (not sure why....)

But I get to choose which lesson (out of the textbook for the class which I am making a demo of) and I am supposed to 'interact with the students even more than usual' (its a reading and listening class, so they have a lot of independent work sprinkled between engaged activities during the lesson).

The fake student thing I find strange, but whatever :idunno:

Anyone ever done something like this? If so, care to share your experiences or any advice?

Thanks!
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby Puppet » 31 May 2012, 13:18

I'm dying to hear how this one goes. I smell a classic post coming from this one in the future.
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby superking » 31 May 2012, 13:25

And how much are you to be paid for this? My advice is to sort out the money side of things first...
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby bigduke6 » 31 May 2012, 13:32

I assume your work permit from this employer only covers teaching? I am not sure if a video for "promotion and training" falls under teaching?
There will be video evidence if it doesn't.

Promotion sounds a bit open ended for me. I would ask exactly what they plan to do with the video. :2cents:

The next thing you know,it is on a video billboard outside the MOE.
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby Confuzius » 31 May 2012, 15:29

Puppet wrote:I'm dying to hear how this one goes. I smell a classic post coming from this one in the future.


uh-oh :eek:
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby Confuzius » 31 May 2012, 15:35

SK-I will be paid around 3x my usual hourly rate, even if I wasn't though I would probably do it. This employer has been really great to me and now allofasudden is giving me a bunch of extra stuff (all welcomed, and all well paid) they first got me a work permit while still on a dependent arc, then, when I wanted to work elsehwere as well (mo money mo money mo money) they agreed to sponsor my ARC too so I could get more work permits. They are now handing me some great stuff (since I desperately need the hours).

bigduke6 wrote:I assume your work permit from this employer only covers teaching? I am not sure if a video for "promotion and training" falls under teaching?
There will be video evidence if it doesn't.


That kinda is a good point (hopefully only kinda!) since I will, essentially, be teaching....(to fake students, lol) I will just be taped while doing so

bigduke6 wrote:Promotion sounds a bit open ended for me. I would ask exactly what they plan to do with the video. :2cents:

The next thing you know,it is on a video billboard outside the MOE.


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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby ceevee369 » 31 May 2012, 22:06

" Fake" is part of the culture as well alive and accepted. I'd rather call the fake students "Actors". :wink:

Question: if you discover that this footage becomes a "fake" message, which moral grounds are you gonna stand on?
40 minutes seems very long not crossing the imaginary

Related to this, I was thinking of the ?? "fake" advertising recently on ICRT in which you hear a few young pupils shout they are accepted at some leading universities. While those were also actors, they might have helped creating a lie.
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby Confuzius » 31 May 2012, 23:51

ceevee369 wrote:Question: if you discover that this footage becomes a "fake" message, which moral grounds are you gonna stand on?
40 minutes seems very long not crossing the imaginary


Whatya mean, a fake message?
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby Confuzius » 17 Jun 2012, 23:33

Update:

Did the video.

Only took 40 mins, was paid close to 2000nt (not bad for 2 hours)

Most of the students were real students, a couple were young girls (early-mid 20's) who work at the school (same age as the students).

Evidently it wasn't my boss' idea, but by boss' boss in Taipei (its an adult buxiban chain) so I assume that's why she was a bit fuzzy on the details.

But it went swell.
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Re: Advice: Taped Demo with Fake Students

Postby Ducked » 20 Jun 2012, 23:43

Nearly all my students are fake students.

But then I'm arguably a fake teacher.
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