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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby ninman » 24 Sep 2010, 19:00

Went to the interview and got told the exact same thing that I've been told 3 times now. "We only have part time positions available so we can't get you an ARC". I just don't get it, how in the hell did everyone else get a legal job and a work visa?
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby tomthorne » 24 Sep 2010, 21:44

ninman wrote:Went to the interview and got told the exact same thing that I've been told 3 times now. "We only have part time positions available so we can't get you an ARC". I just don't get it, how in the hell did everyone else get a legal job and a work visa?


The market is very tough at the moment. The supply of teachers is too high, and demand in terms of number of students is falling.

As for how everyone else got a legal job; some sorted out a position with a chain school before they came to Taiwan, while others did what you are doing and walked into schools chancing their arm. It was easier to chance your arm in the past. I was out of Taiwan for a year and came back in May. I knew that it was tough to find work so I made sure that I arrived in time for the summer recruitment window. It still took me until the end of July to secure a full time job which started at the end of August. You are looking for employment at a much worse time of the year.

I can't give you any advice other than to keep on banging away, walking into schools. Eventually you'll walk into a school just when some flakey western teacher has gone back home and you'll land a position.
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby ninman » 24 Sep 2010, 22:42

tomthorne wrote:
ninman wrote:Went to the interview and got told the exact same thing that I've been told 3 times now. "We only have part time positions available so we can't get you an ARC". I just don't get it, how in the hell did everyone else get a legal job and a work visa?


The market is very tough at the moment. The supply of teachers is too high, and demand in terms of number of students is falling.

As for how everyone else got a legal job; some sorted out a position with a chain school before they came to Taiwan, while others did what you are doing and walked into schools chancing their arm. It was easier to chance your arm in the past. I was out of Taiwan for a year and came back in May. I knew that it was tough to find work so I made sure that I arrived in time for the summer recruitment window. It still took me until the end of July to secure a full time job which started at the end of August. You are looking for employment at a much worse time of the year.

I can't give you any advice other than to keep on banging away, walking into schools. Eventually you'll walk into a school just when some flakey western teacher has gone back home and you'll land a position.


But if that's true then I wouldn't have had 2 interviews in the space of a week. I don't buy that the supply of teachers is high, there are far fewer foreigners here than there were in Shanghai. I think the problem here is that schools are tax dodging and trying to persaude me to work illegally. The problem I'm having isn't lack of job offers, it's a lack of schools who seem to be willing to play by the rules and actually register me as an employee simply because they don't want to pay their taxes.
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby tomthorne » 25 Sep 2010, 00:44

That might be the case. However, it seems more probable that the schools simply don't have enough students to cover a full time western teacher and from a business point of view can only employ part timers. I doubt that it's down to schools trying to avoid paying tax.
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby Dougster » 25 Sep 2010, 01:53

yes, the market is tough. However, there is still a demand for qualified teachers. At least at my school anyway. There are alot of teachers out there who aren't qualified, saturating the market. If you are serious about teaching EFL, get qualified, and your prospects will improve.
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby ninman » 25 Sep 2010, 07:06

I am qualified, I have a TEFL certificate. Not only that, I also have Chinese language qualifications.
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby ninman » 25 Sep 2010, 07:07

tomthorne wrote:That might be the case. However, it seems more probable that the schools simply don't have enough students to cover a full time western teacher and from a business point of view can only employ part timers. I doubt that it's down to schools trying to avoid paying tax.


They told me that up front. They said they'd only pay me with cash, I won't be put on their books as an employee, there would be no record of me at all. That way I don't have to pay any taxes.
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby mooku » 25 Sep 2010, 20:25

Ninmen how did you get a TEFL cert without ever teaching before?
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby Dougster » 25 Sep 2010, 22:23

ninman wrote:I am qualified, I have a TEFL certificate. Not only that, I also have Chinese language qualifications.


Apologies. Then you shouldn't have too may probs then. If all else fails, relocate to Taipei.
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Re: Total noob: How do I get started?

Postby MilkTeaJack » 25 Sep 2010, 22:31

I have 15 years of teaching experience. I founded and co-managed a corporate training firm in the States and Japan. I have graduate degrees in ufology ($80) and humanistic arts ($140 and free DHL). There are other degrees, I think, and they cost a lot but its imaginary money from a student loan I don't pay. Also, I published white papers on blogspot. Someday, I am going to get a law degree in something. Probably law.
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