American Eagle Institute (弋果美語)

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American Eagle Institute (弋果美語)

Postby Etheorial » 02 Apr 2004, 10:12

Anybody know anything about the American Eagle Schools?
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Postby OldToeSave » 03 Apr 2004, 09:34

Etheorial wrote:Hi,

Thanks for your message.

I saw a posting of theirs on Dave ESL's Cafe saying they needed teachers in all of their locations. I'd only be interested in working in Taipei.

How are the working conditions and salaries there, as compared with other chain schools? (hess for example)

Are they fairly adept at getting the proper visas and ARC for their teachers?

I have no TEFL certificate and no prior teaching experience. Do you think that would affect my chances of being hired?

Lastly, are there any other reputable chain schools you can recommend to me? I need to pre-arrange a job from America, so that i may begin working soon after my arrival in Taiwan.

Best Regards,

Matt


They didn't have the Taipei school opened yet,so I don't know what it's like. This is something you'd have to ask them.

Conditions are great. They spend alot of money on environment and supplies. They are also very professional about getting ARCs. But, on that note...if you have been doing your research, you'll have noted that there are alot of rumors of raids going on at schools. It is illegal to have a foriegner teach in a kindy. It always has been, but officials have looked the other way. Now there are lots of stories about teachers being sent packing after being caught in what they thought was a legal position. As I teach adults exclusively now, these changes don't affect me, so I have not followed this issue as closely as others have. YOu can ask AES directly about this, but remember that Taiwanese are quick to label us as "complainers" if we ask too many questions.

If I had to choose between Hess, Kojen, GV, Gram, David's or Jy (or any of the other chains) I'd choose AES.

No TEFL, no problem, at least for AES.

As for salaries, you will make approx. 65,000 NT a month. As you can live in their dorms for 3500 and they feed you 10 meals a week, you can save alot. But you will work your ass off. Kindy all day (8-4), with a foreign co-teacher, which sounds good but I didn't like it. In the evening, you teach a 90 minute buxiban class. You are done by 6, but you will be exhausted. Then you have to do a weekly report for each student in your care (approx 36). That gets very tedious. And, on top of that, you have to do your own lesson planning. This all takes its toll.

I make the same now (okay, a little less) but I only teach 27 hours a week and have no prep or correcting to do.

As for finding a job from overseas, I can say this. I have done that 2x now and lived to regret it. The advice of myself and other posters on the various sites that I respect is to come here and look around. Yes, much more daunting a proposition, but better two weeks of confusion than a year of regret.

Now, there was a blow-out 4 years ago at AES. The teachers, all new to Taipei, started to meet other teachers and realized that our hourly wage was way below what their friends at other schools were making. They did'nt realize that the others were getting limited hours. anyway, they started a big battle with management, started complaining to parents and AES had no choice but to take punitive action (firings). MY opinion was that the teachers were being childish and greedy and that AES staff and management did there level best to handle a tough situation. Now, a word of warning. This fiasco was fueled by 2 foriegners AES employs as managers. Their names are K (CBC guy from Vancouver)(don't remember his last name) and GB (Old American woman, real beeyatch). If you are dealing with these people, beware....they are self-righteous assholes that think they are a gift to the Taiwan ESL business. If it wasn't for these two, I might even consider going back to AES. But they are such that I never would. AES chinese staff and management are great, the schools are clean and modern, the clientele are usually quite well off, but you'll work your ass off to make the same money (less actually) that would be available to you if you came here without a job and spent 2 weeks pounding the pavement.

Good Luck.

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American Eagle Institute?

Postby RushTheSpider » 28 Jul 2009, 10:05

Hi everyone, hope you can help me out with this.

I have an offer from the American Eagle Institute in Zhudong and Zhanghua.

Anything anyone can tell me about these schools, or the chain in general? or the cities themselves?

Thanks so much!
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Re: American Eagle Institute?

Postby valor » 29 Jul 2009, 00:08

I've heard nothing but good things about American Eagle. I don't know anyone who works at the Zhudong branch, but the Hsinchu, Zhubei, and Science Park branches are good places to work. The hourly pay is really good, like 750 an hour starting off, and there is very little down time, you should have block hours. Only downside is you probably won't teach more than 16 hours a week unless someone goes on vacation, and not every teacher at the branch will get to do the winter and summer camp, so you could see a forced month vacation at that time, especially if you're the new guy. Other than that the school is straight, you'll have lots of free time and live comfortably. They also don't mind if you pick up morning work to supplement your income.
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Re: American Eagle Institute?

Postby RushTheSpider » 29 Jul 2009, 01:33

Thanks valor.

According to my contract though it's a monthly salary, not per hour.
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Re: American Eagle Institute?

Postby cfimages » 29 Jul 2009, 07:46

Many years ago, a friend of mine worked at one and didn't have anything bad to say about it.

As for locations, I used to live in Zhanghua. For me, it was a great place to live, but then I'm comfortable living in a place where there's not much English or other western things. If you need these, you might not like it.
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Re: American Eagle Institute?

Postby valor » 29 Jul 2009, 09:33

RushTheSpider wrote:Thanks valor.

According to my contract though it's a monthly salary, not per hour.


I see. What kind of hours are you looking at and how much are they offering if you don't mind me asking.
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Re: American Eagle Institute?

Postby americanmama » 04 Aug 2009, 21:29

Don't know much about the school, but they are spending a lot on ads in Taichung.
The ones on cable are really irritating...with the little kid giving a western guy directions to his hotel and another one with her asking " how's the weather in Toronto today?" :aiyo: gettin' on my nerves....I've heard they are struggling to get students in Taichung.
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Re: American Eagle Institute?

Postby nemesis » 04 Aug 2009, 22:19

In Hsinchu/Zhubei, the people I knew who were salaried claimed not to make enough for the hours they put in, but the ones who worked casual (afterschool classes only; hourly wage) raved about it and said it was a great place to work. Apparently, the management in the Zhubei branch leaves something to be desired. Keep in mind that this is secondhand info; I haven't worked there myself.
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Re: American Eagle Institute?

Postby RushTheSpider » 05 Aug 2009, 00:32

valor wrote:
RushTheSpider wrote:
I see. What kind of hours are you looking at and how much are they offering if you don't mind me asking.


It's supposed to be 9AM-6PM 5 days a week. I'm not allowed to discuss financials as per my contract, as it could be terminated, I know it may seem paranoid but I have seen my recruiter post on here.

americanmama wrote:Don't know much about the school, but they are spending a lot on ads in Taichung.
The ones on cable are really irritating...with the little kid giving a western guy directions to his hotel and another one with her asking " how's the weather in Toronto today?" :aiyo: gettin' on my nerves....I've heard they are struggling to get students in Taichung.


haha those commercials sound hilarious!

oh yeah and by the way it ended up being the one in Zhudong not Zhanghua. Shame as I heard there is absolutely nothing to do in Hsinchu let alone Zhudong.
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