why don`t Chinese citizens have human-rights ?

[Elegua]

Not really.

I didn't say "Not".

Yes you did!

[blueeee11]

Do the Kombai tribe in PNG have no human rights because they live in, "a state of nature", in the jungle? Comparatively they are quite behind. I saw it on Discovery.

Lol. I would say Papua New Guinea have a lot of room for improvement in terms of human rights. I don't know about the tribes but if they are happy living in the forest then who are we to interfere? A very basic part of human rights is having the freedom to live your life the way you want isn't it? If someone likes to live in the forest or in a cave on his own free will then why not? There are plenty of urban PNG citizens who would like to see improvements in things though.

Do you agree my view?

But my main point on this thread is that human rights is not an exclusively western concept. Chinese citizens do want and deserve human rights too. Contemporary culture in many parts of Asia (korea, taiwan, hk, japan, macau, nz, australia) do have an emphasis on human rights.

Countries like German were one or two decades faster than the Asians but now some parts of Asia are slowly catching up.

[ninman]

Ok, just in case this is a wind up, why DOES China`s government cheat common people, especially without election rights and survival rights in China?

Maybe because that's the way it's been for all 5,000 of China's glorious history as the "middle kingdom" and greatest civilization on Earth? **tongue planted firmly in cheek**

Dude 中国 or 中國 (sorry I learned Chinese in Shanghai, not used to traditional characters yet) does not mean "middle kingdom", a better translation would be "country at the center", i.e. they are at the center of everything, the most important, the best and so on.

In Chinese culture there are five heavenly gods 東，西，南 and 北 on the outside, and in the center the most powerful one labeled 中, so by calling themselves 中國 they are effectively saying that they are the most powerful country on earth.

But yeah, one of the things I always wondered about, last year China celebrated it's 60th anniversary, but yet they keep on saying "we have 5000 years of history", how can a country be both 60 years old and 5000 years old. In fact if it is 5000 years old that means they've had a lot longer to try and get their shit together and get it right, and still haven't, all of us "young" countries (i.e. Britain, Europe and most of the west), with our mere 3000 years of history (wtf), couldn't possibly understand right?

[tommy525]

forget exactly where, but somewhere I read on China-Rising website that the person is not smart enough to choose for himself who to vote for and what his rights should be, so its easier if the CPC party chooses for them.

By having only one major party dictating how you should behave and what your freedoms are, it saves you the trouble of having to think for yourself, and helps keep everyone united and stops people from getting bad ideas.

Exactly case in point , Singpore vs Taiwan

[Satellite TV]

But yeah, one of the things I always wondered about, last year China celebrated it's 60th anniversary, but yet they keep on saying "we have 5000 years of history", how can a country be both 60 years old and 5000 years old. In fact if it is 5000 years old that means they've had a lot longer to try and get their shit together and get it right, and still haven't, all of us "young" countries (i.e. Britain, Europe and most of the west), with our mere 3000 years of history (wtf), couldn't possibly understand right?

Well Chinese have always been good at bold faced lying. After all there was no China 5000 years ago.

[cjc444]

But yeah, one of the things I always wondered about, last year China celebrated it's 60th anniversary, but yet they keep on saying "we have 5000 years of history", how can a country be both 60 years old and 5000 years old. In fact if it is 5000 years old that means they've had a lot longer to try and get their shit together and get it right, and still haven't, all of us "young" countries (i.e. Britain, Europe and most of the west), with our mere 3000 years of history (wtf), couldn't possibly understand right?

Well Chinese have always been good at bold faced lying. After all there was no China 5000 years ago.

Whatever Everyone knows that China invented people.. Didn't you see the excerpt in 10,000 BC with where Mao was filmed drafting the original King James version? Get with the program man'g.

[ninman]

Well China is fucking pissed now that Liu Xiaobo has been given the Nobel peace prize. Makes you wonder how they are going to justify keeping this quiet.

[tommy525]

LIu who?

[Benjamin K]

Everyone in the world should have human rights.

[kevinsang01212]

The human rights issue in China is usually a propaganda used in the West

Just look at http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/20 ... -citizens/
Is that Human Right enough for u?

It is like no foie gras cos of cruelty to duck but u could cut them, eat them, roast them, skin them..... etc. U get the point.

If you are enough of a threat to the local establishment controlled by the control group then u will be taken out, period. Doesn't matter if there is any human rights law or not.