Sexual Harrassment

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Sexual Harrassment

Postby TomHill » 01 Oct 2005, 19:20

MrsHill says that she is being sexually harrassed at work. Apparently, her boss flashed a wad of cash in the office, and asked if this was enough to 'buy her.' He has also suggested she quit her job to become a whore, and attempts to touch her whilst at work. I had no idea! :oops:

Aside from smacking this chump in the face, what can I do for her? She says she will change her clothes and scream if he touches her again. Is this all she can do about this a-hole?
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Postby bob » 01 Oct 2005, 21:03

The guy sounds like a real cunt. Is he bigger than you?
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Postby Stray Dog » 01 Oct 2005, 21:17

Honestly, let your missus know you are there for her, but encourage her to confront the guy herself. She could tell him straight, or suggest asking his wife what she thinks.

I think it would be better for her if she learned how to deal with these situations herself, but knowing you're ready to step in if need be.
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Postby jdsmith » 01 Oct 2005, 21:22

How about she carrying digital recorder and switch it on when he comes by just in case.

Or this may help...

http://www.otal.umd.edu/~vg/amst205.F97 ... /main.html
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Postby Mother Theresa » 01 Oct 2005, 22:20

jdsmith wrote:How about she carrying digital recorder and switch it on when he comes by just in case.


Absolutely.

And save all inappropriate notes, emails, phone messages or other communications from him.

Start keeping a record at work of all inappropriate comments/behavior, writing down the date, description, and names of all witnesses as soon as possible after each event, before her memory fades.

Any time a co-worker witnesses an inappropriate comment/act, speak with the co-worker and see if he/she would agree to sign a brief statement summarizing what happened. If so, she should prepare that statement ASAP and get the co-worker to sign it before there's a change of heart.

Collect any other evidence of any kind concerning his comments/acts or any retaliation he takes against her.

Keep a record, with dates and descriptions, and save all receipts concerning any damages she suffers due to his conduct, such as headaches, stomach aches, sleeplessness, arguments at home, doctor or counselor visits, medication, increased use of alcohol, sleeping pills or other medication, etc.

Even in lawless Taiwan, sexual harassment in the workplace is illegal, though attorneys and judges don't treat is nearly as seriously as they do in the US. And it sounds like she's got a strong case against this scumbag. But no matter what country one is in it is absolutely essential that one have strong evidence to back up ones legal claims. If it's just her word against his, it may be a tough case and not worth fighting in court. On the other hand, if it's possible to gather witnesses or other evidence she should definitely hire an attorney and sue the bastard.
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Postby j99l88e77 » 01 Oct 2005, 22:26

She should find another job. Right now. Sticking around is just asking for it. Try to get some sort of severence package and threaten involving the police if you must. Might not get anywhere or may cause problems elsewhere if you involve the authorities. Not sure on that but I wouldn't stick around.
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Postby maoman » 01 Oct 2005, 22:32

I wouldn't be posting about it on the internet - I'd be pounding on the boss's door right now, asking him what the hell is going on! A little bit of testosterone is exactly what's called for. If your wife is truly being sexually harrassed, she's got zero job security anyway, so you're not going to be making matters worse.

And apologies to Stray Dog, but I think hsi advice is way off. It would work in the west, but not coming to your wife's immediate defence (needed or not) is a poor display of loyalty. Granted a logical, rational approach would be ideal, but the emotional, angry one is the way that works here. The boss will say "No, you misunderstand - it was a harmless joke!", and he may privately think you're a psychopath, but he will be VERY careful around your wife in the future.

My opinion, anyway.
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Postby TomHill » 01 Oct 2005, 22:59

bob wrote:The guy sounds like a real cunt. Is he bigger than you?

I met him, I even gave him gifts for his kids. I could lay waste to him easily... But it isn't my way.

I really apprectiate the advice. I just got told today, and she is obviously very shaken about it. It has been happening for a while... I was suitably angry about the guy, but that only goes so far... I agree that MrsHill needs to know she has my support 100%, and if he touches her again Im gonna go banana's, but she needs to go in and work, and be professional. She said that on Friday she screamed at him in front of her colleagues "I don't want you to touch me," and threw her work on the floor. I hope he has the message...
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Postby TheGingerMan » 01 Oct 2005, 22:59

I agree with Maoman. Pay the perp a visit and give him what's for!

I'm sorry, but men and women are different, especially when it comes to brain chemistry. They don't respond to confornation the same way. And then you add the politics of an an office scenario...it's sheer dynamite.

Either Mr.Hill, or a good friends of same, must pay the chap a visit. And if he says it all a joke gone wrong, you give him some of the business end of things. Those swine won't learn any other way. This is only my opinion, but I've workerd in an office before, and have experience in these matters. Plus I'm 6'3", the women always come to me for help. Shouting and threats of violence are your best bet, especially in a public place.

I wish you well in your endeavor. I'd help if I could. As I can't stand that shite........
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Postby bob » 01 Oct 2005, 23:29

TomHill wrote:
bob wrote:The guy sounds like a real cunt. Is he bigger than you?

I met him, I even gave him gifts for his kids. I could lay waste to him easily... But it isn't my way.


Good on you Tom Hill. It isn't my way either but I certainly would be tempted to have a word with him and if he was some big, tough bully boy type I'd be likely to bring along some pepper spray or something. That's just MHO of course, Mother Teresa is giving you the best advice so far I bet. The notion that maoman and I have that you could talk to the guy yourself doesn't necessarily preclude any of the steps he mentioned I don't think though and could also become part of the record of events. Perhaps you could tape record that conversation as well. If I was in your situation I'd probably do pretty much whatever MT suggested. Again, good luck. That's a stupid, nasty situation to be forced into for sure.
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