A New Generation of Slavery in Taiwan

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Postby MJB » 30 Oct 2006, 02:01

TainanCowboy wrote:
Satellite TV wrote:Not as much as they cover the millions of illegal slave workers in the US working for slave wages doing jobs Americans won't do .....
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Now about the ridiculous allegations in this post....Got Sourcing on this?

Show me the "SLAVES."?


No problem...Call Durins Bane and ask him to look out his front window. :twisted:
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Postby jlick » 30 Oct 2006, 12:10

Eric W. Lier wrote:As for the ones that have disappeared, there are no statistics besides the numbmer of missing workers as reported by the CLA. What has happened to them is unknown.


How many of these do you think are just working illegally and don't want to be found?
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Postby AndyO » 06 Dec 2006, 08:55

jlick wrote:
Eric W. Lier wrote:As for the ones that have disappeared, there are no statistics besides the numbmer of missing workers as reported by the CLA. What has happened to them is unknown.


How many of these do you think are just working illegally and don't want to be found?


That seems like a more realistic scenario. I love how they call them "run-ways." Are we gonna grab the manacles and round up a posse?
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The word slave too strong ? indentured servant

Postby Diego » 26 Mar 2007, 09:10

TainanCowboy wrote:
Satellite TV wrote:Not as much as they cover the millions of illegal slave workers in the US working for slave wages doing jobs Americans won't do .....
Sat TV -
Nice to se you back.

Now about the ridiculous allegations in this post....Got Sourcing on this?

Show me the "SLAVES."?


Personal source : In my homestate, Oregon, I volunteered with members of my religion to visit migrant farmworkers. Our intention was not to convert, but rather to deliver some items that they needed.

In some instances, the workers come early or when they come the harvest is not ready. So they are without money and they are without transport, etc.

Ok, so we brought shoes, blankets, clothes, soap.

The point is, farmers charge rent, etc for places you wouldn't want your dog to live in.

There is a case from years ago in which illegal workers from Mexico were paying 'taxes', double electricity, rent, etc. And they were working for Standford university!

Here's another: I once worked in a restaurant owned by Taiwanese. This was in Baltimore, MD. The owners were brother and sister, and likely their father, #2 cook was the mother, #1 cook was imported from China, and assistant cooks 1 and 2 were husband and wife from Nicaragua. Let's call them Jose and Maria (it's been more than 10 years..I can't remember). I was a part-time waiter.

The husband and wife spoke very little English. I speak Spanish and quickly made good friends with them. I was appalled to find that, although his pay was low but acceptable US$6 per hour (I think), his wife's pay was below minimum wage.

They were recruited in Nicaragua to work in this specific restaurant. It means that restaurant owners like this specifically advertise these positions in latin America in order to be in control of an illegal and pay them less.

Their apt, electric bill, etc was all in the name of the boss. This made them afraid to quit because if they did, they would have no place to stay.

One day, the bosses were shouting at Maria to get a move on. She cut her thumb seriously and had to go to a doctor. They refused to pay the medical bill and fired her.

I urged Jose to find another job if he could. And I quit immediately after this event.

There are hundrends of thousands of people in similar circumstances. It's not slavery -- but they are manipulated, underpaid, abused, and controlled by fear.
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