Definitely do, it's a classic!mike029 wrote:That book sounds interesting, I'll check it out!
Actually, it was my teacher at Shi-Da who said it was a vagina, so she probably doesn't know what she's talking about.
Most people, including Chinese teachers, and even one particularly unqualified professor of etymology at a major university here, don't know what they're talking about; neither do the vast majority of books in English on the topic. You have to do some serious scholarship to discover that, though.
I'll admit when I'm wrong. In retrospect, maybe it was said as a joke...she messed around a lot in class.
Could be, but I've heard examples this bad from a professor, so...
I googled "女 character vagina" and this thread came up as result number 4...google works fast! I still think the older form looks like a vagina, though.
That's not the oldest form; that's a late form, from Shuowen (說文解字 Shuōwén Jiézì (Shuo-wen chieh-tzu), often abbreviated Shuōwén). Xŭ Shèn, a high official and scholar in the東漢 Eastern Hàn dynasty (25–220 CE), based his analyses in the Shuōwén chiefly on the structure of the 小篆 xiǎozhuàn, or (small) seal script which, having evolved organically during the mid to late Zhōu dynasty out of the Zhōu script, had then been made the standard by the conquering state of 秦 Qín (Ch’ín) as it unified China (rather than, as blindly parroted by most Chinese teachers and books, being invented upon the conquest).
You need to look up the oracle bone forms to see 'the old form'.