Proof of Chinese ethnicity

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Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby Zla'od » 28 Sep 2011, 21:36

Article 11 of the enforcement rules of the Overseas Chinese Affairs Commission (OCAC) reads as follows:

“Document of proof of Chinese ethnicity” referred to in the Act means a document of proof of foreign identity that states nationality or ethnicity of the holder as Chinese, or a certificate of Chinese ethnicity issued by the Overseas embassy and consulate, representative office, office or other agency authorized by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (hereinafter referred to as “Overseas Misson”).


I would like to apply for a "certificate of Chinese ethnicity," but have no official documents stating my ethnicity to be Chinese. Could I apply for such a document in Taiwan, or would I have to wait until I can do it from abroad? And what is their working definition of "ethnic Chinese"? (That is, what specific criteria would I have to prove?) And what sort of evidence would these offices regard as persuasive? (They don't just go by looks, do they?)
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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby Icon » 29 Sep 2011, 10:50

Dunno if you can apply here. What I've been told is that the line has to be paternal -you must be Chinese on your father's side- and maximum 6 generations ago. The study on the records takes a while.
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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby Zla'od » 29 Sep 2011, 21:18

What records? And on what basis would they judge the Chinese ethnicity of the father?
“If a bodhisattva resides as a householder and there appears a woman who is clearly unbound to anyone, habituated to sexual indulgence, attracted to the bodhisattva and seeking sexual activities, the bodhisattva having seen this thinks, 'Do not make her mind upset, producing much misfortune. If she pursues her desire, she will obtain freedom. As expedient means [upaya] I will take her in and have her plant the roots for virtue, also having her abandon unwholesome karma. I will engage in impure activities [abrahma-carya] with a compassionate mind.' Even practising such defiled activities like this, there is nothing that is violated [precepts], and much merit will be produced." -- from the Yogācārabhūmi Śāstra

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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby jdsmith » 29 Sep 2011, 21:24

Zla'od wrote:What records? And on what basis would they judge the Chinese ethnicity of the father?


oh THIS could be good.

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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby Icon » 30 Sep 2011, 09:36

For example, our family dates to some poor soul who thought he was going to the US and landed in Panama. So when the request was put, apparently they checked some records going all the way back to Canton. My family put the request in the local Overseas Compatriot office, they do the checking. You could have some documentation -pictures, proof of marriage with the names of teh people involved, property deeds- that help establish you are a descendant of so and so.
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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby Hokwongwei » 31 Jul 2014, 15:10

Icon wrote:For example, our family dates to some poor soul who thought he was going to the US and landed in Panama. So when the request was put, apparently they checked some records going all the way back to Canton. My family put the request in the local Overseas Compatriot office, they do the checking. You could have some documentation -pictures, proof of marriage with the names of teh people involved, property deeds- that help establish you are a descendant of so and so.


I'm gonna be honest, Icon, I had no idea you were part Chinese. It just doesn't meet my mental impression of you.

Of course, that's not a bad thing at all.
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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby hansioux » 31 Jul 2014, 15:24

Hokwongwei wrote:
I'm gonna be honest, Icon, I had no idea you were part Chinese. It just doesn't meet my mental impression of you.

Of course, that's not a bad thing at all.


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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby Icon » 31 Jul 2014, 15:46

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OK, seriously now, in another thread someone got sent to OCAC here in Taipei, not local office. Have they -sigh- changed the procedures? Probably with all the cuts in budget, there are not that many overseas OCAC offices anymore.
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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby IceEagle » 31 Jul 2014, 16:15

Icon wrote:OK, seriously now, in another thread someone got sent to OCAC here in Taipei, not local office. Have they -sigh- changed the procedures? Probably with all the cuts in budget, there are not that many overseas OCAC offices anymore.


Hmm, actually, there is a Cultural Center of TECRO near DC, but I'm not sure if they're under the right department to handle this. OCAC lists them here: http://www.ocac.gov.tw/OCAC/Eng/Pages/L ... nodeid=428

IIUC I want to talk to someone from http://www.ocac.gov.tw/OCAC/Eng/Pages/V ... 0&pid=1128

I wonder why TECRO directed me to headquarters in Taipei if there is a local center here though...
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Re: Proof of Chinese ethnicity

Postby urodacus » 31 Jul 2014, 21:02

icon looks part Chinese in her avatar picture.

but that's not proof.
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