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Dual citizenship - ABT

Who can and cannot be a dual national, as well as the joys and frustrations accompanying that status. Includes ROC Passport and Military Conscription issues
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Dual citizenship - ABT

Postby reallysoftsweater » 07 Nov 2013, 13:17

Hi! I have a question I was hoping someone could answer for me.

BACKGROUND:

I am an ABT. I was born (after 1985) in the US making me a US citizen. My family moved to Taiwan when I was a kid and I lived and went to school there for a year. During that time my parents applied a Taiwan passport for me making me a dual citizen.

But that Taiwan passport expired a long time ago and I never renewed it again. So now every time I go back to Taiwan I enter with my US passport.

Right now I am considering moving back to Taiwan for work, but the military conscription is my biggest concern.

My question is is it still possible for me to get drafted? If so what should I do in this situation to avoid military conscription?

Thanks!
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Dual citizenship - ABT

Postby hsinhai78 » 07 Nov 2013, 14:56

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Dual citizenship - ABT

Postby hsinhai78 » 07 Nov 2013, 15:00

reallysoftsweater wrote:Hi! I have a question I was hoping someone could answer for me.

BACKGROUND:

I am an ABT. I was born (after 1985) in the US making me a US citizen. My family moved to Taiwan when I was a kid and I lived and went to school there for a year. During that time my parents applied a Taiwan
passport for me making my a dual citizen.

But that Taiwan passport expired a long time ago and I never renewed it again. So now every time I go back to Taiwan I enter with my US passport.

Right now I am considering moving back to Taiwan for work, but the military conscription is my biggest concern.

My question is is it still possible for me to get drafted? If so what should I do in this situation to avoid military conscription?

Thanks!



What is an ABT? Do you mean 華僑?

(1) You do not become a citizen by applying for a passport. Countless of ROC citizens never applied for a passport. Under the Republic of China Nationality Act you have been a national from birth as your parents are nationals - regardless of what form of identification or passport you use.

(2) That being said, having an invalid passport will not affect your status as a ROC citizen and you will most definitely be subject to the draft.

(3) Not maintaining household registration does not help you either.
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Re: Dual citizenship - ABT

Postby hansioux » 07 Nov 2013, 15:51

As an America Born Taiwanese after 1985, you will not have the benefit of doing 4-month VISA runs. So your real options to avoid being drafted are:
1. Give up Taiwanese citizenship and just apply for a work VISA.
2. Have a medical reason to be excused from service.
3. The research alternative service for expatriates is still available. If you have a masters in the applicable field and don't mind being tied down to a company for 3 years, then you can consider doing that. A co-worker of mine is doing it.

By the way, if you can't speak Mandarin well, it's could be tough for you. Sometimes even if you are excused, you might still have to serve for a rather pointless 21 days. During which you will mostly be doing nothing or cleaning and jogging, while your COs try very hard not to have you kill yourself.
Don't confuse me with your reasonableness.
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Re: Dual citizenship - ABT

Postby hsinhai78 » 07 Nov 2013, 16:26

hansioux wrote:1. Give up Taiwanese citizenship and just apply for a work VISA.


Draft age male citizens cannot give up ROC citizenship before having completed the service.
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