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ABC Living in Taiwan

Who can and cannot be a dual national, as well as the joys and frustrations accompanying that status. Includes ROC Passport and Military Conscription issues
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ABC Living in Taiwan

Postby manderzzzz » 20 Jul 2014, 22:17

I've been lurking on this site forever and I've finally decided to create an account. I'm sure everyone's seen my type of situation a million times, but I'm so confused with all these rules and regulations.

1. Both my parents are ROC Citizens
2. I was born in the US, but my parents never applied for citizenship for me (I'm 24 now)

I've been living in Taiwan for the past 2 years with an ARC while studying Chinese.

Here's my question: Is it possible to apply for an ROC ID card *while* still holding an ARC? As in....Can the 270 days be counted retroactively starting the date that I received the ARC or would I have to apply for an ROC passport first, at which time the "one year/270 days for 2 years" rule would apply?
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Re: ABC Living in Taiwan

Postby xiaojuan » 21 Jul 2014, 02:22

Is it possible to apply for an ROC ID card *while* still holding an ARC? As in....Can the 270 days be counted retroactively starting the date that I received the ARC or would I have to apply for an ROC passport first, at which time the "one year/270 days for 2 years" rule would apply?


Not sure what you mean by this day count, but since I'm in a similar situation as you (child of Taiwanese parents, born in the US) I'll let you know what I've been told by the National Immigration Agency. Note that this is information from a year ago. Things might've changed since I last asked, but it hasn't in decades and I doubt it has now.

Basically, as far as NIA is concerned, we're both foreigners who also happen to be children of ROC citizens. In the meantime you're only eligible to have an ARC. You have the right to apply for an ROC citizenship, and the ROC ID that comes with it, regardless of your age, but you just can't do it here. It doesn't matter if you are standing in front of an NIA officer in Taiwan with your Taiwanese parents, their documents and your own ready. They just won't do it. My dad tried it when I was 5. I tried again when I returned at 23, and few more times after that. It just couldn't happen.

NIA states that you must apply at your home country. That's right. You must buy a plan ticket, fly back home, halfway around the world, go to your nearest TECO, apply through them, wait as long as it takes to process the paperwork, be issued your ROC passport, and then fly all the way back to re-enter Taiwan with your new passport. It's an enormously time consuming and expensive process. Not sure what your future plans are, but I would think about why you want an ROC ID first, and then consider whether or not it's worth the trouble.
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Re: ABC Living in Taiwan

Postby manderzzzz » 22 Jul 2014, 23:58

Thanks for your response.
I actually asked my mom for clarification, too, and it was just what I was afraid of.
I'm actually leaving Taiwan next week having lived here for 2 years while learning Chinese (I'm starting grad school in the US this fall), and I'm just bummed that the next time I come back, it'll be like my "home" --Taiwan-- is no longer "home". No more access to banking, health insurance, etc. :cry:

Was trying to hold out hope that maybe applying for the ID *now* might work-- (the department I was studying Chinese at wouldn't allow Taiwanese passport holders to apply, so I wasn't able to apply for an ROC passport before coming)

Oh well... maybe in the future I'll come back or something.... :s
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Re: ABC Living in Taiwan

Postby thousandthgirl » 22 May 2015, 13:39

Ah, should have checked this post first before posting what I just did - as I am in the same exact situation! Thanks for this thread - I guess I should get on buying those plane tickets. I hope things worked out for you, manderzzzz!

For me, as I'm planning on staying in Taiwan for good (well, perhaps with stints in HK, BKK, etc) - it makes sense for me to go through this process, but it's a bitch!
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Re: ABC Living in Taiwan

Postby springonion » 23 May 2015, 18:25

Yeah...from what I heard from my US/Canadian born Taiwanese friends, that is exactly what they did...apply for an Overseas Taiwanese Passport...use that to enter Taiwan, apply for a TARC and one year later, get the ID...hope it works out ok for ya Thousandthgirl..cheers.
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