Zla'od wrote:Not in any solid way. I did happen to meet somebody from one of those offices (my wife knew her) who seemed to think they had been phased out.
Zla'od wrote:The US (DC) TECRO a couple of years ago seemed willing to issue one (we e-mailed), as long as I had some sort of documentary evidence.
Zla'od wrote:They did not specify what this might be--after all, passports and birth certificates do not usually note ethnicity. Perhaps they hoped that me, or one of my ancestors, had been enrolled in some sort of Chinese benevolent association, or that an immigration record could be found (and linked to me). One of these days I may solicit letters from various anthropologists attesting that group identity is notoriously fictive and fluid, and submit that!
Q. What are documents of proof of Chinese ethnic origin? What is the significance of an Overseas Chinese Identity Certificate obtained on the basis of proof of Chinese ethnic documents?
A. A document of proof of Chinese ethnic origin means a document of proof of foreign identity that states nationality or ethnicity of the holder as Chinese, or a certificate of Chinese ethnicity issued by a ROC Foreign Representative Office.
Where a person applies for an Overseas Chinese Identity Certificate by submitting proof of Chinese ethnicity, the OCAC will annotate on the Overseas Chinese Identity Certificate issued the fact that the applicant had lodged the application on the basis of such proof of Chinese ethnicity; the substantive validity of such an Overseas Chinese Identity Certificate will be determined by the relevant authority responsible for each specific purpose.
Zla'od wrote:Not OCAC. She was on the diplomatic staff of..whatever they call the pseudo-embassies these days. One of those.
Zla'od wrote:Malaysia didn't exist as such before 1963.
Zla'od wrote:As for the other stuff--if this is what they require, then it represents a fundamental confusion between ethnicity, ancestral nationality, and emigration records.
Zla'od wrote:For example, a number of Jews and White Russians departed China in the 1940's and 1950's, but their travel record tells us nothing about their ethnicity.
Zla'od wrote:Another issue is that since any ancestral line will represent gradually diminishing portions of one's genetic and cultural heritage, how many grandparents or great-grandparents have to be proven to be Chinese?
Zla'od wrote:Finally, I can't help but suppose that many ethnic Chinese would lack documentary evidence of how their ancestors came to dwell in...wherever the are. Are such people really just out of luck?
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