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No ARC for Dual Citizens?

Who can and cannot be a dual national, as well as the joys and frustrations accompanying that status. Includes ROC Passport and Military Conscription issues
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No ARC for Dual Citizens?

Postby sensAsian » 24 Apr 2015, 10:38

This is an issue for my brother. He is both a US and Taiwan citizen born in Taiwan in 1982. He does not have the Taiwan ID card.

My bro has gotten an ARC for the last 8 years in KHH, but they won't give him an APRC because he's a TW citizen.

He recently moved up to TPE and tried to renew his ARC but the ARC office rejected him. They said he's not allowed to get an ARC because he's a TW citizen and KHH has been doing it wrong this whole time. I don't know how you can be wrong for 8 years and no one notice. Is this a new law? What can he do?
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Re: No ARC for Dual Citizens?

Postby Tempo Gain » 24 Apr 2015, 21:58

Does he have a TW passport? What did he enter on?
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Re: No ARC for Dual Citizens?

Postby Confuzius » 25 Apr 2015, 03:41

wait...

cant he just apply for an ID card?
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Re: No ARC for Dual Citizens?

Postby stinkytofu » 22 Aug 2015, 11:34

This has also been an issue for me. Same status -- I hold both a US and TW passport, but I don't have a Taiwan ID card (national without household registration). A potential buxiban employer informed me that they won't be able to give me an ARC because the Taiwanese government would reject that application and force the buxiban to employ me as a Taiwanese citizen. Thus I apparently need to obtain an ID in order to get employed, which I don't want because it seems like a lengthy process, and I would be draft-eligible. Anyone have dual-citizenship working advice?
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Re: No ARC for Dual Citizens?

Postby sensAsian » 02 Sep 2015, 12:44

Both my brother and I have/had an ARC as dual citizens. Your potential buxiban owner has outdated/wrong info.

I would NOT get the national ID card under any circumstances. There is absolutely no benefit to it whatsoever.

Anyways, my bro did it get sorted out (kinda). He was able to renew his ARC.
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Re: No ARC for Dual Citizens?

Postby Desert Fox » 02 Nov 2015, 13:34

I would not get the ID card until I was sure I am no longer eligible to be drafted. I also have US and TW passports with no ID # on the latter one... About two years ago, I asked the immigration office about the requirements of getting an ID. Basically, just enter with your TW passport, fill out some paperwork and present several pieces of documents AND stay in TW for 366 days consecutively. The problem now however, is that if you stay past 365 days with your TW passport then you have to serve in the military!!! Don't be fooled! Just get an ARC with your non-TW passport and work until you are past 36/37, and then apply for the ID card.

If you are someone who left TW when young and obtained a passport from another country later on and decide to pop into TW for a visit and work, the authorities here may be able to match the name and picture in your new passport with their records, BUT they cannot force a foreign national to serve in their military. However, in their eyes, it is your duty to serve your country, why should you be able to live overseas for so long only to come back and cut in front of everybody? This is why they give you trouble on your ARC, to send you a message of, either serve your duty first or leave, because the current employment situation in TW is not good. I don't think you can circumvent this by legally changing your name because they are now taking fingerprints.
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