The ABC/CBC question again.

Who can and cannot be a dual national, as well as the joys and frustrations accompanying that status. Includes ROC Passport and Military Conscription issues
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The ABC/CBC question again.

Postby hakkaboy » 24 Jun 2007, 13:09

I've perused through most of the posts here and haven't really seen concrete info on ABC/CBC's etc.. obtaining Taiwanese citizenship/ID. The thread on blood lineage got a little off track.

Is it easier for us? Meaning less paperwork and not having to renounce country of citizenship. I have no ancestral/maternal/paternal ties to Taiwan whatsoever .

Can we in fact obtain dual citizenship? I'd like my cake and eat it too you see.
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Re: The ABC/CBC question again.

Postby Yellow Cartman » 24 Jun 2007, 18:33

hakkaboy wrote:Is it easier for us? Meaning less paper work and not having to renounce country of citizenship. I have no ancestral/maternal/paternal ties to Taiwan whatsoever .

Can we in fact obtain dual citizenship? I'd like my cake and eat it too you see.


Sorry, in your case, you are SOL.
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Postby Tyc00n » 24 Jun 2007, 18:38

Whaaat? Thats like me trying to gain citizenship to somewhere like Russia, because I'm white.

So put down the bottle, or bong, or whatever and just analyze the logic of what you've just stated.
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Postby hakkaboy » 25 Jun 2007, 01:01

take it easy c00n.. I only wanted more info because of this thread:
http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?t=16241

hey.. this is Taiwan and I've seen stranger things happen.
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your ID number please.

Postby walile » 11 Jul 2007, 07:28

The necessary and sufficient condition is that your father, grandfather, or great grandfather was, or has been an ROC citizen (having a ID number) AND has a residency record in the "free region" of ROC. Mainly claiming that you have Chinese/Taiwanese/Aboriginal blood won't make you an ROC citizen. It also means that if you don't even have a Chinese surname then you can pretty much forget about it.

Isn't it true that if a foreign guy marries a Taiwanese woman, he still can't get Taiwanese citizenship, not even if their child was born in Taiwan?

I think the government should allow foreigners(those who work and live here legally for say, 4 years) to obtain Taiwanese citizenship more easily. But the problem is most Taiwanese people can care less about the rights of foreigners.(quite opposite to the popularity and perks foreigners think they get)

The funny thing is, almost all the politicians seem to argue that Taiwan is a "multi-cultural" society, as if they know what that means.
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Postby lurkky » 11 Jul 2007, 10:06

I think the government should allow foreigners(those who work and live here legally for say, 4 years) to obtain Taiwanese citizenship more easily. But the problem is most Taiwanese people can care less about the rights of foreigners.(quite opposite to the popularity and perks foreigners think they get)


Whether they care about the rights of foriegners or not could be the issue.

Another is: they live on a very small island that's not getting any bigger.
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Re: your ID number please.

Postby Satellite TV » 11 Jul 2007, 16:32

walile wrote: Isn't it true that if a foreign guy marries a Taiwanese woman, he still can't get Taiwanese citizenship, not even if their child was born in Taiwan? .


Bollocks mate. Please read thru some of the posts by people like myself who are white guys who have become ROC citizens.

Marriage to an ROC national is not a pre-requesisite to becoming an ROC national. :D :D

4 of the white guys I have helped were not married when becoming ROC natioanals. I was also not married at the time either although I had been married to an ROC national.

There is a period of legal residence to meet then you can apply. The requirement now is 5 years I believe. It was 7 when I applied ten years ago.

When you become an ROC national you are no longer a foreigner so don't need to get all hung up about foriegner rights yada yada yada.

Not that foreigners are so restricted here in what they can and can't do nowadays anyways.
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Postby Satellite TV » 11 Jul 2007, 16:37

lurkky wrote: Another is: they live on a very small island that's not getting any bigger.


How very astute of you to notice.

I moved from the largest island in the world to live here. Problem was that is the smallest continent. :D :D
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Re: your ID number please.

Postby jlick » 12 Jul 2007, 20:03

Satellite TV wrote:
walile wrote: Isn't it true that if a foreign guy marries a Taiwanese woman, he still can't get Taiwanese citizenship, not even if their child was born in Taiwan? .


There is a period of legal residence to meet then you can apply. The requirement now is 5 years I believe.


Five years normally, three if married to a citizen. And no, there's no gender discrimination in citizenship law currently.
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Re: your ID number please.

Postby rahimiiii » 15 Jul 2007, 10:15

If you become a ROC citizen doesn't that mean you have to serve in the army as well? why would anyone want that? can you imagine being a private in an army full of people who don't understand you?
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