Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

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Re: Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

Postby Abacus » 25 Jul 2012, 15:01

dan2006 wrote:
Abacus wrote:What benefits do you want that something like an APRC doesn't offer? I know there are benefits but what specifically are you after?


For things like getting credit in your own name and not always being in the foreigner category when you attempt to do business here. A lot of companies will still use the foreigner rule even with a APRC.


these are your reasons? Use you Canadian credit card (it works everywhere that takes a credit card) and everyone will still see you as a foreigner regardless if you have citizenship.
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Re: Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

Postby dan2006 » 25 Jul 2012, 17:47

Abacus wrote:
dan2006 wrote:
Abacus wrote:What benefits do you want that something like an APRC doesn't offer? I know there are benefits but what specifically are you after?


For things like getting credit in your own name and not always being in the foreigner category when you attempt to do business here. A lot of companies will still use the foreigner rule even with a APRC.


these are your reasons? Use you Canadian credit card (it works everywhere that takes a credit card) and everyone will still see you as a foreigner regardless if you have citizenship.


Everyone will always see you as a foreigner, but legally as a citizen they can't use that to select against you.

It also provides a sense of permanency if you intend to live here permanently. But I killed the idea anyway when I found out how complicated it is to resume once you renounce.
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Re: Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

Postby Abacus » 25 Jul 2012, 18:31

I don't think you know why you want to become an ROC citizen or even why you want to live here. I remember your posts from awhile ago because we have similar backgrounds in some ways. I would need a really, really good reason to give up my US citizenship. trying to find a sense of permanency is just grasping at straws imo. Just enjoy your vacation every 90 days if you don't have a job.
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Re: Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

Postby Chris » 25 Jul 2012, 18:50

Abacus wrote:What benefits do you want that something like an APRC doesn't offer? I know there are benefits but what specifically are you after?

You wouldn't have to worry about the 6-month-per-year residency requirement.

You could have an additional passport, and therefore have more travel options to different countries. (E.g. going to China on a Taibaozheng, or paying lower visa fees for certain countries than you would on your original citizenship, or being able to visit countries your government forbids you to visit or that forbid people from your country from visiting.)
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Re: Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

Postby dan2006 » 25 Jul 2012, 18:59

Chris wrote:
Abacus wrote:What benefits do you want that something like an APRC doesn't offer? I know there are benefits but what specifically are you after?

You wouldn't have to worry about the 6-month-per-year residency requirement.

You could have an additional passport, and therefore have more travel options to different countries. (E.g. going to China on a Taibaozheng, or paying lower visa fees for certain countries than you would on your original citizenship, or being able to visit countries your government forbids you to visit or that forbid people from your country from visiting.)


The going to China part is interesting as well. (Taibaozheng)

Essentially I would do it if it wasn't such a pain to get the Canadian one back. :)

Anyway, i thought I would just post it in case any Canadians had the question in the future.
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Re: Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

Postby Abacus » 25 Jul 2012, 19:05

Chris wrote:
Abacus wrote:What benefits do you want that something like an APRC doesn't offer? I know there are benefits but what specifically are you after?

You wouldn't have to worry about the 6-month-per-year residency requirement.

You could have an additional passport, and therefore have more travel options to different countries. (E.g. going to China on a Taibaozheng, or paying lower visa fees for certain countries than you would on your original citizenship, or being able to visit countries your government forbids you to visit or that forbid people from your country from visiting.)


These are benefits but not really reasons to renounce your citizenship.

Do you really get to keep your CA passport if you renounce your citizenship? I doubt it.
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Re: Giving up CA citizenship for ROC, getting original CA back

Postby asian boy » 26 Jul 2012, 11:06

Chris wrote:
Abacus wrote:What benefits do you want that something like an APRC doesn't offer? I know there are benefits but what specifically are you after?

You wouldn't have to worry about the 6-month-per-year residency requirement.

You could have an additional passport, and therefore have more travel options to different countries. (E.g. going to China on a Taibaozheng, or paying lower visa fees for certain countries than you would on your original citizenship, or being able to visit countries your government forbids you to visit or that forbid people from your country from visiting.)


What countries have visa fees for visitors?
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