lotzuni wrote:I am older than you and the same goes in my life:
"Did you finish army service? "
"Are you married? You need to marry and have some boys to continue your family lineage, to honour your family, etc etc , to prove that you are a man"
lotzuni wrote:In other countries you have the peer pressure, here we have family pressure, we need to do a lot of things that we don't believe just to prove our "worth".
And I tell all of them: "Mind you business, I may need to do army service, marry, but I am in no hurry"
lotzuni wrote:There were times that I wished to be born in other countries, in Western countries you don't draft the people to the army, you don't force someone to get married, you have choices, here in Taiwan, do it or you are a disgrace to our country and to your family.
I for once am swimming against the tide, I am not ashamed and no one is going to put me down.
lotzuni wrote:What if I ran away, never serve the army or never get married ? Inside I feel great and that is what really bloody matters
cfimages wrote:I've no idea what the point of that was bismarck.
bismarck wrote:cfimages wrote:I've no idea what the point of that was bismarck.
No surprise there.
cfimages wrote:bismarck wrote:cfimages wrote:I've no idea what the point of that was bismarck.
No surprise there.
I'm not sure what relevance those photos have to the discussion at hand. Posting photos of mushroom clouds, dead/wounded bodies and celebrations by the victors is simply gloating and seeing others as less than human, or less worthy of living. I dearly hope your sense of manhood is not formed by those images in any way - if so I pity you.
cfimages wrote:EDIT - You do realise that if the Japanese and German conscripts of the 1930s had have refused to serve, there may not have even been a WW2.
Cfi -cfimages wrote:I've no idea what the point of that was bismarck.
TainanCowboy wrote:Cfi -cfimages wrote:I've no idea what the point of that was bismarck.
Yes...yes I think you do know what that was about. I seem to remember you posting quite knowledgeably about your serving at a service club back in Australia. If I remember correctly, you spoke well about the gents in the club, former Diggers all.
So I do think you know what Bismarck is talking about.
IMO, based on what you've posted, are best off never getting close to military service. I pity anyone who would be in service with you should they actually have to depend on you to do something that required a conscientious effort. That appears to be beyond the scope of your abilities. It is people who express opinions such as you do who make it damn clear that Taiwan is not worth a single solitary expenditure by any allied force to save should the flag go up and the PRC decide to waltz over here and restore their brand of order to the island.
The current US mil intel belief is that less than 25% of the current military would actually fight for longer than 12 hours shoud the PRC/PLA attack here.
IMO, that about 10 hours too long. The sad fact is that there are good soldiers here who would make the ultimate sacrifice for their country. But they are in the small minority. These troopers will be sold-out by worthless mommas boys who piss and moan about not having their Hello Kitty pajamas and mommas wipe their sorry asses at night rather than grow up and do their duty for their country.
Their are things more larger in context than self. Ideas that give richness and worth to ones life. It is apparent that you, and a lot of other Taiwanese(and others) have no ability to understand things such as this.
You say you are "not ashamed." How can you be "ashamed"?
You have no concept of what personal shame is all about. That concept, personal shame, along with accountability and responsibility has been bred out of your psyche. You're not the only one here like this. Just another glaring example who is all too quick to confess it without a clue.
Its all about you isn't it? All about you.
lotzuni wrote:All this criticism means nothing if you're here in Taiwan. You are not participating in the war either, fighting with your fellow men in Iraq are you ? You are watching the war from afar. Doing nothing and brag about manhood stuff and calling me selfish.
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