lotzuni wrote: TainanCowboy wrote:
lotzuni wrote:All this criticism means nothing if you're here in Taiwan. You are not participating in the war either, fighting with your fellow men in Iraq are you ? You are watching the war from afar. Doing nothing and brag about manhood stuff and calling me selfish.
Yea, I am in Taiwan. However, I have done my time in the military and beyond. And that time included a "real war" and several more that had all the accouterments of war.
Don't be so fast with your fingers in trying to disparage the experiences of other to justify your own short-comings. You're just digging yourself in deeper.
You know, posting old war pictures in the web while a real war is still going on in your country and the world,
There's a war going on in my country? Really? First I've heard of it.
lotzuni wrote: and wasting your time in front of the computer exchanging a discussion war of thoughts in the comfort of your room with AC
Nope. Air conditioner's not on either...
lotzuni wrote: doesn't make me believe you really care about serving your country.
Well, I don't regard the opinions of draft dodgers very highly anyway. And apart from that, I served my country for six years, patrolled up and down both our coastlines on surface vessels and submarines, served in a peace enforcement role in two combat theaters and did various other things such as voter registration and volunteer fire-fighting in a military and non military capacity.
Not sure how you define "serving your country", but I think I went above and beyond the call of duty. Partly because I love my country and partly because I felt I came from a privileged background and wanted to give something back.
Edit: To be clear. "Giving something back" need not entail joining the military.
lotzuni wrote:Criticize if you want,
I believe I've given ample opinion on the subject already, but here's one more. You came here somehow looking for acceptance for dodging the draft (when your peers and family obviously haven't given it), and although some applaud you, you're surprised that veterans don't.
lotzuni wrote: but here in Taiwan right now we are doing the same, just exchanging words,
Although, the vast majority have already or will sometime in the future go and do what your law requires of them. Many of us here already have, either in Taiwan or abroad.
lotzuni wrote: you lecture about the rampant violence out there but you are still here, you are not doing much either,
I can honestly say that I've done my part, and I've done a sight more for my country, and in fact, my region, than the likes of you probably ever will. Let me ask you this. Have you even ever done any form of volunteer work? Helped out at an old age center, volunteer fire fighting? I suspect most foreigners on this board have given back more to this country, its people or its animals than you ever have or are likely to do.
lotzuni wrote: and the war is an outgoing on there
lotzuni wrote: while China and Taiwan are still in peaceful terms.
Are you even Taiwanese? Did you go to school at all? Legally Taiwan and China are still in a state of war.
cfimages wrote:A war such as WW2, where global freedoms were at stake, is an exception.
Good point. As such it was probably a poor example.
Buttercup wrote:Would you defend Taiwan?
If I was a citizen, and if necessary? Yes.
Ibksig wrote:That aside, you may not have to worry much longer. According to Defense Minister Chen Chao-min, Taiwan is supposed to be phasing out conscription in the next 5 years with the end in 2014.
At which point he'll still be a sprightly 37 year old and ready to start off his career with all the other....um...22 year olds.