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Dual Citizenship

Who can and cannot be a dual national, as well as the joys and frustrations accompanying that status. Includes ROC Passport and Military Conscription issues
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Re: Dual Citizenship

Postby nonredneck » 02 May 2013, 16:19

ironfist wrote:question about USA/ROC dual C.

If I open an account with my other citizenship (not US) in USA. And later I get divorced or lawsuit or bankrupted or anything like that. Can they get to that account? I think they can't because it's another person' account pretty much. But if they can link you then maybe they can? anyone actually got experience in this and know the answer? What will they ask if you wanna open a bank account in USA with a foreign passport or ID? USA address? ID I guess?, will they check the visa too? because I won't enter USA with that passport...I will enter US with USA passport.thanks guys.


You will need to give the bank your Social security number when you open the bank account. Since you are a US citizen, you have a social number, which they will want. If you try to open an account with a foreign passport, they will want an individual Taxpayer identification number, which is only for non-US citizens. However, if you tried to apply for one, you would be lying to the US government since you already have a SSN.

You can read up it here, But probably best not to try to defraud a country where the biggest crime is not paying your taxes.

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/Internat ... mbers-(TIN)
An ITIN, or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, is a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number (SSN). It is a 9-digit number, beginning with the number "9", formatted like an SSN (NNN-NN-NNNN).

To obtain an ITIN, you must complete IRS Form W-7, IRS Application for Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (PDF) . The Form W-7 requires documentation substantiating foreign/alien status and true identity for each individual. You may either mail the documentation, along with the Form W-7, to the address shown in the Form W-7 Instructions, present it at IRS walk-in offices, or process your application through an Acceptance Agent authorized by the IRS.
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Conflicting stories to obtain hukou

Postby ET_go_home » 09 Jul 2013, 12:11

Hi all,

Hoping to get to the bottom of this with the knowledge here.

So like many, I'm looking to become a Taiwanese citizen (both passport and hukou) in addition to my US citizenship. My parents are both Taiwanese and have lived in Taipei forever. I've been told to get the ball rolling, first step is to obtain that overseas Taiwanese passport which I'll do when I fly back to San Francisco this Thursday. However, regarding hukou, I've heard two different versions:

A) have to stay in Taiwan for six months 'straight' over 2-year period
B) have to stay in Taiwan for 400 days 'combined' over two years with unlimited in and out

I can't seem to find the info on the web to confirm so hoping you folks could help me out. Also, regarding military service, I'm turning 36 this October, may I assume I'm exempted due to age?

Thanks everyone and please let me know if I'm missing anything else.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!
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Re: Conflicting stories to obtain hukou

Postby gnaij » 09 Jul 2013, 12:27

ET_go_home wrote:Hi all,

Hoping to get to the bottom of this with the knowledge here.

So like many, I'm looking to become a Taiwanese citizen (both passport and hukou) in addition to my US citizenship. My parents are both Taiwanese and have lived in Taipei forever. I've been told to get the ball rolling, first step is to obtain that overseas Taiwanese passport which I'll do when I fly back to San Francisco this Thursday. However, regarding hukou, I've heard two different versions:

A) have to stay in Taiwan for six months 'straight' over 2-year period
B) have to stay in Taiwan for 400 days 'combined' over two years with unlimited in and out

I can't seem to find the info on the web to confirm so hoping you folks could help me out. Also, regarding military service, I'm turning 36 this October, may I assume I'm exempted due to age?

Thanks everyone and please let me know if I'm missing anything else.

THANKS IN ADVANCE!
ken


The residency requirements are continuously for 1 year, 270 days per year for 3 years, or 183 days per year for 5 years. There's a bill under consideration in the legislature that will do away with these residency requirements, so you may find yourself able to establish huji sooner than that. (I started another thread on this topic.)
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Re: Dual Citizenship

Postby ET_go_home » 09 Jul 2013, 12:49

Thanks very much for that info!

Now I'm confused where my fellow ABC got the "400 days combined over two years" deal from...especially when he applied it for his own huji. That also means I won't be able to make any business trips aboard after starting my new job in Taipei next month. Hope they pass the new revisions soon 'cause selfishly speaking, if my parents have lived their whole lives in Taiwan, then their kids should get the preferential/expedited treatment...
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Re: Dual Citizenship

Postby 2Enigma » 06 Mar 2014, 17:12

I had an opportunity today to speak with a very high administration guy. I was asked what problems Westerners have in Taiwan. After 3 minutes of listing them, I finally came to dual citizenship. I was told that it's "being discussed". I understood that it's not really Western folks but Chinese Mainlanders overrunning the place and skewing the elections. (As if they aren't already skewed)
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Re: Dual Citizenship

Postby Zla'od » 18 Mar 2014, 08:53

There was something about this in the TT yesterday. Apparently some DPP legislators favor revising this rule, but the Ministry of the Interior would rather make exceptions on a case-by-case basis for those who have made "extraordinary contributions" to Taiwan, not average people who have neglected to devote our lives to charity and are not near our deathbeds.

Article here: http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/fore ... lators.htm

Taiwanease has more reliable coverage of this sort of thing: http://www.taiwanease.com/en/forums/leg ... nomobile=1
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