Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby tommy525 » 06 Jul 2012, 14:30

spaint wrote:
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nonredneck wrote:Thanks for the response. I don't believe the USA issues marriage certificates if you got married in a foreign country. I'm pretty sure Taiwan must know this. Getting it authenticated at a US consulate is probably the only thing I can do. I've been warned that Taiwan would try to make it difficult to bring a SE Asian wife to Taiwan. Looks like they are right.


I wouldn't be too hard on Taiwan over this - there's no reason for them to know the US doesn't issue certificates. I doubt they're lying to you over it or purposely giving you a hard time.


They can't possibly have not encountered this kind of thing before.

I remember when I was married to my ex the immigration officers wanted proof of British registration of the marriage. I was incredulous: first I haven't lived in the UK since I was a minor, and second the marriage was done IN TAIWAN - but they still wanted me to jump through their idiotic hoops.


I rarely defend the TW govt because they are royal fuck ups on immigration and all that jazz and has caused me personally a lot of hassles. But in this case, since the UK does NOT recognize marriage performed in Taiwan, they are within the realm of understanding to require proof your marriage is recognized by the country of your passport. Especially the UK . Because otherwise you hve a marriage considered invalid in the UK.
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby spaint » 06 Jul 2012, 15:02

tommy525 wrote:I rarely defend the TW govt because they are royal fuck ups on immigration and all that jazz and has caused me personally a lot of hassles. But in this case, since the UK does NOT recognize marriage performed in Taiwan, they are within the realm of understanding to require proof your marriage is recognized by the country of your passport. Especially the UK . Because otherwise you hve a marriage considered invalid in the UK.


First off, it was a long time ago, so my recollection is hazy, but as I recall this "problem" of UK recognition wasn't a problem back then. It wasn't even on the radar.

Second, the UK doesn't have a household registry system; the rule in the UK is (to paraphrase) "if your marriage is legal where it was performed, then it's good enough for the UK".

Third, I was applying for a JFRV, as a spouse of a Taiwanese citizen with a marriage certificate for a marriage that was performed in Taiwan. Those fucking imbeciles wanted me to get the Taiwanese marriage certificate stamped by a completely NON-EXISTENT agency in the UK as though that would somehow increase its authenticity. What should it matter what the UK thinks of the marriage if I'm applying for a Taiwanese resident visa?
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby tommy525 » 06 Jul 2012, 15:04

Preaching to the choir . I agree. They dont make sense at all, their rules and regs on such matters.
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby spaint » 06 Jul 2012, 15:06

Accidentally posted instead of editing...
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby Belgian Pie » 06 Jul 2012, 17:55

nonredneck wrote:Could any one confirm if the Taiwan government is lying to me? I am married to a Vietnamese National in Vietnam and am set to move to Taiwan this year. However, my work is telling me that Taiwan wants a US marriage certificate to recognize the marriage before issuing a dependent ARC. This is bullsh*t as the US doesn't issue marriage certificates for people not married in the USA.

I suspect the Taiwanese are lying to me. Anybody agree or disagree?


Strangely enough I don't understand the law in Taiwan either. I married in Taiwan, my wife is Taiwanese and I needed the proof that our marriage was certified in Belgium before I could get my ARC ... JFRV, or however you call it. Obviously the Taiwanese government doesn't recognize their own certificates. That was, about 10 years ago, now I have an APRC.
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby spaint » 06 Jul 2012, 17:57

For the record, I did NOT have my marriage approved/certified/authenticated/whatever by the UK and still got the JFRV. But the OP did not marry in Taiwan, so the situation is certainly different.
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby Belgian Pie » 06 Jul 2012, 18:02

spaint wrote:For the record, I did NOT have my marriage approved/certified/authenticated/whatever by the UK and still got the JFRV. But the OP did not marry in Taiwan, so the situation is certainly different.


It's bureaucracy, they just want to stamp a lot of documents ... but, I think that a cerificate from Vietnam, translated and notarized (by TECO in Vietnam) could suffice.
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby Tempo Gain » 06 Jul 2012, 20:46

nonredneck wrote:Could any one confirm if the Taiwan government is lying to me? I am married to a Vietnamese National in Vietnam and am set to move to Taiwan this year. However, my work is telling me that Taiwan wants a US marriage certificate to recognize the marriage before issuing a dependent ARC. This is bullsh*t as the US doesn't issue marriage certificates for people not married in the USA.

I suspect the Taiwanese are lying to me. Anybody agree or disagree?


They always do this.. What you do here is head to the consulate and get a notarized statement that you are in fact married. You can get it same day, no fuss. Will you be able to do it when you get here?
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Re: Dependent ARC and Possible Taiwanese lies

Postby tommy525 » 06 Jul 2012, 23:12

come to think of it, when i got mine , i married in taiwan and didnt have to jump thru a bunch of rings.

Married in Shilin district court. Got the Police report from the USA (got my dad to get me one and mail it to me) , the quick physical, and that was pretty much it. Needed the US embassy to give me the cert of no impediment (just swore you are single in front of an occifer) in order to marry.

not a lot of hoops. was pretty straight forward.
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