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Postby Belgian Pie » 20 Sep 2005, 09:58

What would happen if I lets' say went to the airport ... checked in ... went through immigration ... don't board the plane ... wait a few hours ... go down and return to the immigration desk to enter Taiwan on a landing visa?

Would they let me pass immigration, provided that I have a return ticket ... :s

Technically I left the country because I have a stamp from immigration that I did ... I just didn't board and went to another country to return ... and I don't need a stamp from immigration in another country because I could take a connecting flight back to Taiwan without ever passing through immigration at the other end.
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Postby robi666 » 22 Sep 2005, 21:33

what is your benefit than?
duty free shopping?
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Postby Bassman » 22 Sep 2005, 22:01

I've had the same question in my little noggin before.
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Postby taipeiapple01 » 22 Sep 2005, 23:10

Actually, planes in Taiwan will not take off without you. I know a guy who tried that in lieu of a visa run. Plus, immigration is on a separate floor. There is a stairway, but you need a security card and a five digit pin. There is a camera in the stairway. It is not monitored regular-like, but they can always play back the tape.
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Postby Belgian Pie » 23 Sep 2005, 09:16

Actually, planes in Taiwan will not take off without you. I know a guy who tried that in lieu of a visa run. Plus, immigration is on a separate floor. There is a stairway, but you need a security card and a five digit pin. There is a camera in the stairway. It is not monitored regular-like, but they can always play back the tape.


Do you live in the airport? You seems to know a lot ... tried it before?

BTW, they leave without you ... they just take out your luggage and you can stay ... you think they are going to leave 200+ people just sitting idle ...
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Postby taipeiapple01 » 23 Sep 2005, 09:44

belgian pie wrote:
Actually, planes in Taiwan will not take off without you. I know a guy who tried that in lieu of a visa run. Plus, immigration is on a separate floor. There is a stairway, but you need a security card and a five digit pin. There is a camera in the stairway. It is not monitored regular-like, but they can always play back the tape.


Do you live in the airport? You seems to know a lot ... tried it before?

BTW, they leave without you ... they just take out your luggage and you can stay ... you think they are going to leave 200+ people just sitting idle ...


I was going to let this go, but after Ironman's comment, I thought I let you know I was watching and I do care.

Answer: As a Taiwanese/Chinese, I am always on the look out for away to scam the system. Loopholes are good things and created to help society function, but you won't find one at the CKS International Airport (at lest the one you were looking at).
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Postby Yellow Cartman » 23 Sep 2005, 10:23

taipeiapple01 wrote:
belgian pie wrote:
Actually, planes in Taiwan will not take off without you. I know a guy who tried that in lieu of a visa run. Plus, immigration is on a separate floor. There is a stairway, but you need a security card and a five digit pin. There is a camera in the stairway. It is not monitored regular-like, but they can always play back the tape.


Do you live in the airport? You seems to know a lot ... tried it before?

BTW, they leave without you ... they just take out your luggage and you can stay ... you think they are going to leave 200+ people just sitting idle ...


I was going to let this go, but after Ironman's comment, I thought I let you know I was watching and I do care.

Answer: As a Taiwanese/Chinese, I am always on the look out for away to scam the system. Loopholes are good things and created to help society function, but you won't find one at the CKS International Airport (at lest the one you were looking at).


Slightly off-topic but I think it's an important one in the Legal Forums re: loopholes. Definitely loopholes are a fact of life, even a way of life here in Taiwan. The system can be "negotiated". That's what ML McLean does, find the grey areas and see if it can be exploited to the client's benefit.

However, personally, I would disagree that this is a good thing. This is a statement on how weak the government is and actually hurts society in the long run. Things would be so much smoother if it were more black and white, not 10,000 shades of grey.
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Postby Bu Lai En » 23 Sep 2005, 12:38

Actually, planes in Taiwan will not take off without you.


They certainly do. One left without me once.

Anyway, the idea won't work. You have to have actually left the country and been to another country. If you have a multiple entry visa, you have ot have left the country but don't have to have been to another country - but you have to have been on a shop or plane, hence the Star Cruise trips.

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Postby Belgian Pie » 23 Sep 2005, 12:51

Is a transit zone actually part of the country you're boarding the plane?

I mean techinically it is ... isn't it regarded as an international free zone?
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Postby taipeiapple01 » 23 Sep 2005, 12:56

belgian pie wrote:Is a transit zone actually part of the country you're boarding the plane?

I mean techinically it is ... isn't it regarded as an international free zone?


AIT and the few embassies we have here are technically not part of Taiwan, but you're going to have to leave the island, no matter what. I know it is difficult. Taiwan, it will touch your heart.

When you land... in let's say hk, you don't need to go through immigration, you can stay in the termanal and get on the next flight. The record keeping is not a problem. They don't even calculate the time between departure and arrival. . . The tricky part is negociating the stairs.
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