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Short-term and long-term visas, application requirements, waiting times, advantages and disadvantages of stay vs. resident visas, who needs an ARC, and why do people opt for permanent residency
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What is up with this?

Postby TainanCowboy » 07 Dec 2005, 15:36

OK...I have been here on Taiwan since May 2004.
I did all the paperwork, read all the info and did the research into moving to Taiwan, getting married and living here.

I came from the United States.
Prior to moving here I have visited the island approximately 15 times on business over the previous 12 years.
I am not here as an 'English' teacher. I work and do, thanks to the freedom allowed by the internet and fax machine, basically the same job I did in the USA - plus a few more opportunities that have availed here on Taiwan. All legally.

I continually see people posting questions here about overstaying their visa. What the f**k is up with that?

Can these people not read and understand the rules?
I have lived and worked in 14 different countries over the years. Plus worked short time in about 7 more. I have never had a problem re:visa limits in any of them. What the hell is the problem with these people?
Are they too damn stupid to read and follow the posted rules?
Do they think that somehow the rules are not applicable to them?

I see this about 3 times a week on Forumosa.com and just was wondering about this.

I am hesistant to say these people are too ignorant to understand the law.
But really...what is the major mal-function here?
The rules are pretty well spelled out for easy reading and digestion.

It truly does baffle me to keep seeing this problem over and over.

/rant...well...sort of a rant...really just a question that has continually popped up for me.
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Postby Jive Turkey » 07 Dec 2005, 16:00

You just don't understand expatriates-living-in-Taiwan culture.
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Postby TainanCowboy » 07 Dec 2005, 16:04

JT -
LOL... :bravo:
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Postby sandman » 07 Dec 2005, 16:08

TC, a lot of them seem to be young kids away from home for the first time after a short lifetime of having everything spoon-fed to them. So no, I think in many cases, they DON'T avail themselves of the visa rules and many of them do give the impression that they feel a little overstay is no big deal. Then, when they find out that it IS a big deal, they get all aggrieved and do the "not my fault" thing.
Why, I don't know. Youth? Inexperience?
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Postby TainanCowboy » 07 Dec 2005, 16:11

Sandy -
yeah...I agree. Thats pretty much the way I see it also.
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Postby TainanCowboy » 07 Dec 2005, 18:31

HEY...YOU DIPSHITS....READ THE RULES..THEY APPLY TO YOU!
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Postby Namahottie » 07 Dec 2005, 18:48

Sandy again sumed it up succinctly. :wink: One thing would help if on this forum, there would be an organized sticky that would answer that question and others directly so one doesn't have to do a search. Not that people are lazy, it's just they're busy.
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Postby Aboriginal girl » 07 Dec 2005, 18:59

Namahottie wrote:Sandy again sumed it up succinctly. :wink: One thing would help if on this forum, there would be an organized sticky that would answer that question and others directly so one doesn't have to do a search. Not that people are lazy, it's just they're busy.


Yeah, busy overstaying lol :D :D
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Postby sandman » 07 Dec 2005, 19:17

And of those who don't read the rules, I'm sure many are assured by "helpful" bosses that they'll be just fine, no need to worry, etc. etc. I guess it can be easy enough to allow words like that to cloud your better judgment.
That said, I'm sure a lot are also just dipshits. :wink:
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Postby Huang Guang Chen » 07 Dec 2005, 19:34

I have lived and worked in 14 different countries over the years. Plus worked short time in about 7 more. I have never had a problem re:visa limits in any of them. What the hell is the problem with these people?


I think this amplifies Sandman's solid response regarding yoof in Asia, ie, the contrast with your own considerable experience. But I did see one instance where someone misread "this visa can be used until" as a "I can stay until" and I was sympathetic.

More generally, and this may surprise given my stated opinions in other threads - drug traffickers mostly - but I believe inexperienced folks diddy bopping around the globe are apt to presume their countries will aid them and that other countries are places they can take on life's many suits but are somehow immune from their responsibilities.

Erh, I'm Australian and umm, I been to Bali too (nabbed at 14)!

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