Landlord refuses to sign the monthly rent contract...

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Re: Landlord refuses to sign the monthly rent contract...

Postby Abacus » 25 May 2012, 13:25

Confuzius wrote:I would never rent an apt without a lease....that just sounds pretty stupid I have to say. Wouldn't do it in my native land and certainly not on a tiny little Island off the coast of China.


The thread title is actually unclear. I think the OP is talking about the monthly receipt that rent has been paid. I still like some sort of paper trail just in case there is a dispute later.
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Re: Landlord refuses to sign the monthly rent contract...

Postby riceworm » 25 May 2012, 16:06

Most rental contracts contain a nasty clause that says the tenant is responsible for any rental tax incurred, or (more subtly) any increase in property tax.
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Re: Landlord refuses to sign the monthly rent contract...

Postby TheGingerMan » 25 May 2012, 19:35

almas john wrote:I don't see the landlord as a villain in this tale. Nor is the OP, Makriel. This is a case of misunderstanding, well, ignorance of how things work here. If you want to claim rent as an expense and need proof then that's something that needs to be sorted out when you agree to rent a place, not later on. The landlord is following standard practice in not declaring a rental income, and I can understand why he doesn't want the tax department to know about it. How long will the foreign renter stay? One year, two perhaps? But the tax department records won't disappear so easily.


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Re: Landlord refuses to sign the monthly rent contract...

Postby Belgian Pie » 27 May 2012, 15:26

finley wrote:
Belgian Pie wrote:But now you'll have pissed of the landlord as soon as he gets contacted by the tax office about how he forgot to declare his rental income ...


Yep. Rich people everywhere believe that taxes are only for poor people. Therefore, paying the tax on his rental income is your problem, not his. Kudos to the OP for pointing out to the landlord that, actually, income tax is paid by the person earning that income. However, this will come as an immense surprise to the landlord, and he will take some sort of revenge for your impudence.


That's why most landlords insist on having their name on the electricity and water bill ... I'm actually wondered that they don't want one of their children on the Hukou ...
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Re: Landlord refuses to sign the monthly rent contract...

Postby Belgian Pie » 27 May 2012, 15:31

Keep the people wealthy so they can keep the economy flowing by having buying power.


No, governments rather give stippends and subsidize, this way they can show they are doing something for the businesses ... and citizens ... :doh:
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