Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby tommy525 » 10 Oct 2011, 15:53

Far as I understand it. If you stay longer then 183 days of a calendar year in the ROC then you are supposed to file a tax return. Stating tax exempt due to no income in the ROC. If that is the case. Of course the friendly tax boys will try to cajole you into accepting some sort of arbitrary income that they think up so you can pay some tax.

If you do not overstay your visa, you will not have to go see the boys at the tax orifice. But if you do, you will have to face them and their line of fire.
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby Joschka » 10 Oct 2011, 17:07

the bear wrote:
Delonge182 wrote:
european wrote:Yeah but there will be some smart arse appearing telling you it's all breaking the law as you have passed the 6 month mark on the island.


This confused me -

Per the last post, and the first reply, I do not need to file on a tourist visa if I've been here for more than 6 months and derived no income correct ?


You have no obligation to file if you have no intention of working here. There is no exit permit requirement as there used to be so you is free to leave whenever you want. However if you ever want to apply for an ARC (or is it a work permit?) you need a tax certificate stating that your tax affairs are in order. Which means you would have to file a tax return.


I came on a student visa and got my ARC three months later (married a Tainwanese woman.) I did NOT have to get any kind of tax certificate nor did I have to file any kind of tax return. It's more than two years now and I have not worked and not filed a tax return yet.
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby Belgian Pie » 10 Oct 2011, 17:19

I came on a student visa and got my ARC three months later (married a Tainwanese woman.) I did NOT have to get any kind of tax certificate nor did I have to file any kind of tax return. It's more than two years now and I have not worked and not filed a tax return yet.


Not even joint tax filing with your wife? It's about time you start doing so. If your wife is working she can deduct you as dependent.
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby pqkdzrwt » 10 Oct 2011, 19:43

Yes, just to confirm, you can get an ARC without having filed a Tax return, I am not sure where this information has come from. At minimum, ARC by marriage does not require a tax return being filed.
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby Belgian Pie » 10 Oct 2011, 19:53

pqkdzrwt wrote:Yes, just to confirm, you can get an ARC without having filed a Tax return, I am not sure where this information has come from. At minimum, ARC by marriage does not require a tax return being filed.


That's true ... but try getting a PARC ... no go!

Personally I think it's better for someone that 'doesn't' work to do joint filing with the SO ... saves some money and later there won't be any problems ...
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby pqkdzrwt » 10 Oct 2011, 20:20

Yea someone was talking about ARC not PARC.
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby CraigTPE » 12 Oct 2011, 06:03

My first year here was on a tourist visa, studying Chinese and making a trip home every 6 months as per the extension limit. I didn't file any tax forms in Taiwan, and it didn't present any issue when I eventually converted to a resident visa + work permit = ARC.
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby Lo Pan » 24 May 2012, 08:57

I was in Taiwan for a total of 117 days in 2010 on a tourist visa and not working... I was studying Chinese for part of that time

Now I am trying to file my 2011 taxes and the Taiwan Tax Authority has declared they will not accept my 2011 taxes until I file for 2010. :raspberry:

As a part of my 2010 return, they want me to provide documentation to prove that I was not working... how on earth do you provide documentation of not having a job :loco:
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby tommy525 » 24 May 2012, 09:31

But (theres always a but) be careful NOT to overstay at all, even one day. Because they will try to give some arbitrary tax number that you need to pay.


If you overstay, the fuzz may send you to the tax office, who may then assess this totally arbitrary tax on you before they will sign the release which will allow you to get your exit stamp.

So beware of this. Technically anyone who stays in TAiwan over 183 days in a calendar year needs to file either their tax exempt status or file taxes. OF course if you file taxes you run into the "you are working illegally in taiwan" problem.

So long story short do NOT overstay. Leave several days early to be safe.
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Re: Do you need to file taxes on tourist Visa ?

Postby Rotalsnart » 24 May 2012, 11:14

the bear wrote:Its not a newb question. The tax office don't give a damn what visa you hold or how you earn your moola in Taiwan. But you don't have to file if you don't want. You only have to file if in future you want to get an ARC since you will need a tax certificate. Then you will have to write a letter saying you was doing nothing here and supported yourself from savings in the US. Some exchange certificates might help. Believe me the tax office are very nice people and are not trying to trap anyone into admitting they worked illegally. They once held a cheque for me for 4 years and when I finally filed they asked me if I ever worked (illegally) for ABC company. I of course denied all knowledge then they explained they just wanted to give me a cheque for NTD6000. "Ah yes, I completely forgot about that job, gimme that cheque." :cool:


Were you still able to cash the check here after 4 years?
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